Warfare & Tactics

Check my sig and the thread that is linked in that thread. That gives the actual proposal. Its more reliable than your claim that 250 people are against the idea. it was mainly just you, bm, super chair and veshta. And you guys are still trying to argue against it with varying contradictory arguments like:
"It won't effect pvp in plexes"
"It will make pvp too easy to find" etc.


But anyway ccp needs to look at the reasons given. The only arguments against the idea is "farmers are gonna farm" or "your not even in fw" or "if you don't like fw then quit"

I think they have enough sense to draw a reasonable conclusion.

The top vp gainers still avoid pvp.

However you are right that they added lots of lp to plexing. So now we have allot of people with alts in fw that don't care about the actual sov game but don't want their easy isk removed by making it an actual pvp game.

edit that is why I don't really care what the current crop of players say. The only questions are whether ccp wants to make a sov a pvp game. And what are the reasons pro and con for timer rollback and notifications.

The way i see it is really how many of those people that backed your proposal are still in militia today? including yourself. The people who your arguing with have stayed in militia through thick and thin and are mainly happy with the current iteration of fw but would like to see timer rollbacks as the next big step. These guys really know what feature will work and what wont.

as iv said before the only way to make sov realy a pvp game is do away with plexes and add sbus and tcus like in null sec but that would blow big time

But according to you theres no pvp in plexes just stabbed farmer alts and you need a notification to find pvp

Again you are wrong. My problem is that the most efficient way to plex is to avoid pvp.

If we had a notification and timer rollback that would change. You would see the killboards of the people who got the most vp that day and you would see they are good pvpers instead of stabbed rabbits.

Edit:
In fact i bet you would find that the pilots getting the most vp per day are some of the best pvpers in the game.

They have never gotten rid of the after downtime mechanic. But I was happy with FW when they introduced the perpetual respawning plexes that minimized the effect of the after dt plexes. And with all the other iterations of FW, the current version is the best.

Of all the potential modifications in this thread, the notification system has received the least support.

Timer rollbacks is almost universally accepted as a good thing.

Removing warp core stabs and cloaks has received more support than the notification system.

Reducing isk/payouts or removing the Tier levels (the main cause of farmers - just notice how many show up once a side reaches Tier 3, not to mention Tier 4) has received more support than the notification system.

More difficult to kill rats/only appropriately sized ships can run timers has received more support than a notification system.

Interesting data, don't you think?

Not me a thumbs up they gave the idea of notifications a thumbs up. There were also and 12 more who did before ccp changed the forums. 25 is not allot in general but specific fw ideas traditionally do not get allot of support.

So for your 10% claim to work you would need 250 people saying they want to keep the current carebear race. Thats why I am more interested in the actual data than your claims.

I don't doubt you could get it with the current crop of rabbit alts. But I am just more interested in people with a brain who address the actual reasons for the proposals as opposed to those that just repeat your bad arguments like "farmers gonna farm" and "hey! yer not even in faction War."

The problem is exactly the same. Its still most efficient to plex by avoiding pvp.

As far as super chair I don't know what his views are now. The only thing I know is he seems to have been butthurt about some post or other that I made so he tends to occassionally follow me around in the forums and make insults at me. Thats my impression of him.

Never met him in game, and I don't really care one way or another about him.



With the current mechanics the pvpers can't control the rabbits. Look at the top vp gainers for a day and then look at their killboard for that day. That would change if we had notifications. The best pvpers in eve would be the most sought after for each militia. But if players want to protect the rabbits because they are too worried about free intel well that is their choice. But lets make it clear what the choice is. Its either pvpers winning sov or its rabbits winning sov.




The likes are for the post not for the person. I have no idea why the likes actually attach to the person.

Why is it still so very easy to do plex while fitting stabs and cloaks?

If i try to mine in a frig i get a low income, if i rat in 0.0 i get a low income and if i haul....

FW - do everything in a stabbed frig get paid just the same as anyone in any ship no matter how much better than the bare minimum.

Then you can layer on other stupid complications all you like, such as sov or bunker busting etc While the core is pve heaven doable on alts worth nothing to replace in low sec, its always going to be broken!

at least in incursions or WH there is some teamwork, skillpoints and focused ship fittings to get paid, of course that's too much work and few bother... but you know, its your game ccp, balance it.

As honorable leader of the coalition of farmer pigs I laugh at ye poor peasant. Why would you ever join FW for anything other then the isk?

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