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Why your CSM8 vote doesn't matter...

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Frying Doom
#161 - 2013-04-07 22:28:05 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I am very aware these forums are not representative of EvE as a whole.


Then don't site it as a source M`kay? It makes you look stupid. K, thx. Kisses.

Actually I will, as I said the forums are mostly hardcore players and a percentage of these have only 1 account.

Maybe you could site any facts at all rather than just making things up.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#162 - 2013-04-07 22:35:48 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I am very aware these forums are not representative of EvE as a whole.


Then don't site it as a source M`kay? It makes you look stupid. K, thx. Kisses.


Stop fighting else I'll have to brings you twos togets... now kiss & make up Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#163 - 2013-04-07 22:37:57 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
because fixed bloc voting doesn't interest me perhaps?

i think i can choose the winners right now.. same sh*t different year.

The only reason that the blocs get the majority of seats, is that they have the majority of votes.

If more people voted their influence would be lessened.


You dont get it do you? Most of the people are in those large alliances vote and their alts also. Do you not know that most of eve is nullsec vet alliance members and their multiple alts? Doesnt really leave many 'others' to vote.
Also the only people really interested in stroking their egos rather than actually doing good for the game are those nullsec vet players.
And what is wrong with the people contributing the most, cash-wise, to the game getting a say in the process proportional to the income they generate, eh?

Don't like it? Get Hi-Sec to vote. Hi-Sec won't vote? Deal with it. Or join the WH- or Nul-Blocs.


lmao. Isnt that why i said i didnt vote... duh... sorry about you...
Frying Doom
#164 - 2013-04-07 22:38:05 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I am very aware these forums are not representative of EvE as a whole.


Then don't site it as a source M`kay? It makes you look stupid. K, thx. Kisses.


Stop fighting else I'll have to brings you twos togets... now kiss & make up Lol

I am sorry but non-voting scum have no rights, they gave them away.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#165 - 2013-04-07 22:40:14 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
because fixed bloc voting doesn't interest me perhaps?

i think i can choose the winners right now.. same sh*t different year.

The only reason that the blocs get the majority of seats, is that they have the majority of votes.

If more people voted their influence would be lessened.


You dont get it do you? Most of the people are in those large alliances vote and their alts also. Do you not know that most of eve is nullsec vet alliance members and their multiple alts? Doesnt really leave many 'others' to vote.
Also the only people really interested in stroking their egos rather than actually doing good for the game are those nullsec vet players.
And what is wrong with the people contributing the most, cash-wise, to the game getting a say in the process proportional to the income they generate, eh?

Don't like it? Get Hi-Sec to vote. Hi-Sec won't vote? Deal with it. Or join the WH- or Nul-Blocs.


lmao. Isnt that why i said i didnt vote... duh... sorry about you...

Easy question, If most of EvE is Null sec and their votes, then why did they get so few votes last year compared to the over 400,000 subscriptions?

Or are you now saying that 90% of Null sec did not vote?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#166 - 2013-04-07 22:42:14 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Frying Doom wrote:


Easy question, If most of EvE is Null sec and their votes, then why did they get so few votes last year compared to the over 400,000 subscriptions?

Or are you now saying that 90% of Null sec did not vote?


Hmmm now that is an interesting point... I wonder what % of NULL residents don't vote
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Frying Doom
#167 - 2013-04-07 22:49:00 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:


Easy question, If most of EvE is Null sec and their votes, then why did they get so few votes last year compared to the over 400,000 subscriptions?

Or are you now saying that 90% of Null sec did not vote?


Hmmm now that is an interesting point... I wonder what % of NULL residents don't vote

The realistic facts are that only about 20% of EvE is in Null sec, with a large number of alts off those accounts in hi-sec, but this is normally balance by the third alt still remaining in null(per account)
So say 400,000 players at 20%, is 80,000 players. Now in previous elections only 30-40k have voted for Null, so it means 50% of Null is not voting

Nor is the other 300,000 accounts in lo, hi and WH space.

So No if people voted Null would get drowned out, which is why they make claims about 30% of hi-sec being Null ect...

But the facts are that they are actually a drop in the pond and it benefits them for people NOT to vote.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#168 - 2013-04-07 22:51:17 UTC
But for things that suck the most.

I think that category is filled by the fact that so far this year more is being done by players to get people to vote than CCP is doing.

So far their promise to promote the CSM has run face first into a concrete wall.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#169 - 2013-04-07 23:02:50 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
The realistic facts are that only about 20% of EvE is in Null sece.


At this point, your'e really going to want to cite anything that starts with "The realistic facts".

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#170 - 2013-04-07 23:15:10 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
But for things that suck the most.

I think that category is filled by the fact that so far this year more is being done by players to get people to vote than CCP is doing.

So far their promise to promote the CSM has run face first into a concrete wall.


I think this concrete wall will be repeated again and the final solution is compulsory sufferageIdea
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2013-04-07 23:43:11 UTC
Mag's wrote:
You have no evidence to show that, either way. But it's irrelevant to the point and his point still stands. Account numbers are at an all time high. Blink


Nice try, but the high numbers = more alt accounts.

Allowing ISBox to multibox 20+ accounts ensures it.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Zircon Dasher
#172 - 2013-04-07 23:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Zircon Dasher
Compulsory sufferage......LOL

THAT would be funny to see.


Also, the amount of people who do not understand the rudiments of causation makes me sad.

I AM SAD NOW GODDAMIT! FU!

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#173 - 2013-04-07 23:53:33 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Welcome to no-one respecting you then.


The industrialist who industrial platform is even lower than the WH candidates spoke.

Protecting his special interest(s), like self-preservation?

Malcanis wrote:
I think you're speaking in bad faith.


No evidence = either you spoke out the ass, or the evidence doesn't exist.

I can see you'll be having a hard time with that NDA.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#174 - 2013-04-08 00:35:09 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
The industrialist who industrial platform is even lower than the WH candidates spoke.





Depends what you are looking for from an industrialist.

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Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#175 - 2013-04-08 00:41:42 UTC
Chribba wrote:
No abstain option... how interesting...



called refusing to vote for a useless group

(as CCP ultimately does what CCP wants to)

BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2013-04-08 01:49:53 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
The industrialist who industrial platform is even lower than the WH candidates spoke.


Depends what you are looking for from an industrialist.


It's filling all the issues an industrialist would be concerned about in the questionaire (e.g., more ME/PE slots for one), and seeing your platform near the end of the list.

I mean even Greene Lee who isn't running on any industry platform came in higher than you. One WH candidate got 71%.

If you really were about industrial concerns a WH candidate shouldn't beat you on your own platform.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#177 - 2013-04-08 02:13:42 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
This is what happens when a CSM of the people really goes out there and has meaningful conversations with the average, run of the mill everyday player in new eden. With his pulse on the heartbeat of eve, this man could not possibly do anything less then give CCP the rich and informed feedback they need to take this game into the next decade and beyond.


You're really upset that he asked you to cite a claim you specifically made.

In case the point still flew miles over your head (a point fiying miles over the head of a thick as pig **** SMA shirtlord? NEVER), there's a big difference between "there's more alt accounts now than there was years ago" and "there's a steadily growing trend of alt accounts". If you still don't get it, maybe someone can draw it in crayon for you.



I seem to have made you angry. I am pleased. And here is me drawing it in crayon for you, "there are more alt accounts now then there was years ago" and "it is do to a steadily growing trend". Guess what, these two ideas fit together quit nicely.


* Eternum wipes the drool off of snow axe's mouth and gives him a comforting kiss on the forehead. It's ok honey, no one noticed your stupid.

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Frying Doom
#178 - 2013-04-08 02:14:06 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
The realistic facts are that only about 20% of EvE is in Null sece.


At this point, your'e really going to want to cite anything that starts with "The realistic facts".

Look can we avoid any of your Evil Null sec propaganda at the moment.

Look at other realist facts, I really care about the high sec vote.

And due to the hordes of evil Null sec, candidates 5 wonderful candidates have stepped forward to combat, the massive attempt by Null sec to control the CSM

These wonderful people fighting against the darkness of Null are of course.

Ayeson
Chitsa Jason
Cipreh
James Arget
Nathan Jameson

So please save the CSM from the hordes of darkness and vote for those above.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#179 - 2013-04-08 02:15:17 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
This is what happens when a CSM of the people really goes out there and has meaningful conversations with the average, run of the mill everyday player in new eden. With his pulse on the heartbeat of eve, this man could not possibly do anything less then give CCP the rich and informed feedback they need to take this game into the next decade and beyond.


You're really upset that he asked you to cite a claim you specifically made.

In case the point still flew miles over your head (a point fiying miles over the head of a thick as pig **** SMA shirtlord? NEVER), there's a big difference between "there's more alt accounts now than there was years ago" and "there's a steadily growing trend of alt accounts". If you still don't get it, maybe someone can draw it in crayon for you.



I seem to have made you angry. I am pleased. And here is me drawing it in crayon for you, "there are more alt accounts now then there was years ago" and "it is do to a steadily growing trend". Guess what, these two ideas fit together quit nicely.


* Eternum wipes the drool off of snow axe's mouth and gives him a comforting kiss on the forehead. It's ok honey, no one noticed your stupid.

Made Snow Axe angry Lol

When you get war decd then it means he is angryEvil

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#180 - 2013-04-08 02:16:29 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
The industrialist who industrial platform is even lower than the WH candidates spoke.


Depends what you are looking for from an industrialist.


It's filling all the issues an industrialist would be concerned about in the questionaire (e.g., more ME/PE slots for one), and seeing your platform near the end of the list.

I mean even Greene Lee who isn't running on any industry platform came in higher than you. One WH candidate got 71%.

If you really were about industrial concerns a WH candidate shouldn't beat you on your own platform.

So vote for the WH candidate then.

71% is better than the 0% you are looking at if you don't vote.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!