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[ILF] Intaki Prime Relief Effort

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-04-05 22:45:49 UTC
What happens if they do vote for independence? I suppose you'll bomb 'em, eh?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

BloodBird
The Crucible.
#22 - 2013-04-05 23:02:01 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
What happens if they do vote for independence? I suppose you'll bomb 'em, eh?


And this is why I don't respect you nearly as much as other Caldari.

Let me make it simple and clear:



I am a citizen of the Intaki Assembly.

I am loyal to the Assembly's will and respect their rule because it is the will of the people who put them in power.

The Assembly has been part of founding, shaping and continually building this Federated Union for over two centuries.

In a sense, we created this Union, and our influence in it can be felt nearly anywhere, much like the other founding nations.

The Assembly has always been in favor of remaining part of this interstellar society that they themselves helped build, and as long as they support it, I will support it. As long as they remain a part of it, I remain a part of it.

The day the Assembly has a majority-vote to secede and the ILF's great, wet dream is made real, I will forfeit my Federal citizenship and join and support whatever the Assembly does next. Because it it would be the will of the people who put them in power.

I most certainly will NOT bombard and kill my own people, it would be as unthinkable as imagining Pieter Tuulinen nuking New Caldari Prime from orbit for whatever reason.



For the future I would ask that you kindly don't make assumptions or jokes about me along the lines of the one you made above. Being utterly tasteless is the least of it's problems.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2013-04-05 23:11:22 UTC
Fair enough. That was a fairly succinct statement of intentions.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#24 - 2013-04-06 01:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Fair enough. That was a fairly succinct statement of intentions.

Indeed it was.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#25 - 2013-04-06 01:48:51 UTC
BloodBird wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Stillwater Cooperation after consultation with our associates in The Syndicate would like to announce its support for the Intaki Relief effort.

Understanding that words alone are of little value we have set a goal of adding half a billion ISK of product to the Intaki and selected Syndicate markets, in addition to continued direct aid to surface relief projects.

We understand that many may question our motivations. We know the Intaki people will judge us fairly when they take their rightful place as an independent power amongst the community of nations.


The Intaki Assembly currently enjoy their rightful place among a community of nations.

And the day the Assembly desires 'relief' from a well-known Angel-loyal collection of wasted bio-mass promised by one of the newest traitors to the Federation I am sure they will inform you.

Until then, feel free to crawl into a hole and die there.

I don't believe I mentioned the Assembly. But it is indeed good to know that you speak for the them and apparently the totality of Intaki civilization everywhere. However... it pains me to inform you that a good deal of aid has already been delivered and accepted. I guess they forgot to ask your permission?
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#26 - 2013-04-06 01:52:07 UTC
BloodBird wrote:


And the day the Assembly desires 'relief' from a well-known Angel-loyal collection of wasted bio-mass promised by one of the newest traitors to the Federation I am sure they will inform you.

Until then, feel free to crawl into a hole and die there.

Traitor, such harsh words.
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#27 - 2013-04-06 04:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: BloodBird
James Syagrius wrote:
BloodBird wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Stillwater Cooperation after consultation with our associates in The Syndicate would like to announce its support for the Intaki Relief effort.

Understanding that words alone are of little value we have set a goal of adding half a billion ISK of product to the Intaki and selected Syndicate markets, in addition to continued direct aid to surface relief projects.

We understand that many may question our motivations. We know the Intaki people will judge us fairly when they take their rightful place as an independent power amongst the community of nations.


The Intaki Assembly currently enjoy their rightful place among a community of nations.

And the day the Assembly desires 'relief' from a well-known Angel-loyal collection of wasted bio-mass promised by one of the newest traitors to the Federation I am sure they will inform you.

Until then, feel free to crawl into a hole and die there.

I don't believe I mentioned the Assembly. But it is indeed good to know that you speak for the them and apparently the totality of Intaki civilization everywhere. However... it pains me to inform you that a good deal of aid has already been delivered and accepted. I guess they forgot to ask your permission?


No, you mentioned the Intaki people, crammed into a pitiful stab at the Federation intended to give the impression they are somehow enslaved to the Union and are not independent.

The Intaki people is a very broad group, yet in this case we are not talking about the genetic heritage of the vast majority of people living all across Placid and elsewhere, we are talking about the natives of Intaki V - governed by the Intaki Assembly, along with the rest of the constellation.

Also, two things.

First, I never made any attempt to speak on behalf of the Assembly or "All Intaki civilization everywhere" I stated that if they wanted the help of known criminals and scum they would inform you, and you are not unintelligent enough to not understand this. You need to work harder to be able to discredit me.

Second, did you deliver these supplies directly to the Assembly or any organization directly backed by or controlled by them? If so I'd love to know what spokesperson you were in contact with, I'm sure you can provide me a name.

Alternatively you likely delivered these supplies to the Relief Effort's organizers and they delivered it onwards.

Your criminal outfit may be illegal on Intaki Prime, but the ILF, being a political group, is not. The Assembly is not very likely to ask the ILF where they got their supplies, and the ILF itself don't seem to care much who delivers, so long as they do.

Pragmatic when they need to. A good trait.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#28 - 2013-04-06 04:51:55 UTC
At some point I thought I had something to add to this discussion. Then I read what BloodBird has had to say, and I can't quite remember my earlier thoughts.

Well done, Sir. My expectation is that your outlook is quite well taken elsewhere in the Federation.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#29 - 2013-04-06 16:24:52 UTC
BloodBird wrote:


No, you mentioned the Intaki people, crammed into a pitiful stab at the Federation intended to give the impression they are somehow enslaved to the Union and are not independent.


Impression? Last time I checked, the Intaki people of Syndicate are denied to colonize planets by a Gallente Federation decree. I am eager to see what kind of euphemism you will come up for this sort of Intaki people's right violation.


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Second, did you deliver these supplies directly to the Assembly or any organization directly backed by or controlled by them? If so I'd love to know what spokesperson you were in contact with, I'm sure you can provide me a name.

Alternatively you likely delivered these supplies to the Relief Effort's organizers and they delivered it onwards.


Since the Relief Effort's organizers are meant to be the contact party regarding donations and help, I'd assume that's the only logical way to proceed with such things. That is the purpose of this topic, after all.

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Your criminal outfit may be illegal on Intaki Prime, but the ILF, being a political group, is not. The Assembly is not very likely to ask the ILF where they got their supplies, and the ILF itself don't seem to care much who delivers, so long as they do.

Pragmatic when they need to. A good trait.


Yet some seem to have an issue with our philanthropy. I don't see why the sudden shock, our 'criminal outfit' is not unknown for its humanitarian efforts.
The only thing I conclude here is Msr. Bird is just somewhat frustrated that we obviously care more about the Intaki people than he does. I'd advise to donate some assets of your own instead of impolitely questioning the agenda of good-natured people willing to help.
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James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#30 - 2013-04-06 19:49:03 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
BloodBird wrote:

No, you mentioned the Intaki people, crammed into a pitiful stab at the Federation intended to give the impression they are somehow enslaved to the Union and are not independent.

You are an angry person aren’t you Msr. BloodBird. You imagine insult where none was given. I think this says more about your perception and personality than it does our intent.

BloodBird wrote:

First, I never made any attempt to speak on behalf of the Assembly or "All Intaki civilization everywhere" I stated that if they wanted the help of known criminals and scum they would inform you, and you are not unintelligent enough to not understand this. You need to work harder to be able to discredit me.

My intelligence aside, again you perceive offence where none was intended. I have no motive or need to “discredit” you. I won't be the only one that is perplexed by your statement. You claim not to speak for the Assembly and then in the same breath do so.

BloodBird wrote:

Second, did you deliver these supplies directly to the Assembly or any organization directly backed by or controlled by them? If so I'd love to know what spokesperson you were in contact with, I'm sure you can provide me a name. Alternatively you likely delivered these supplies to the Relief Effort's organizers and they delivered it onwards.

Again you mention the Assembly, did I?

BloodBird wrote:

Your criminal outfit may be illegal on Intaki Prime, but the ILF, being a political group, is not. The Assembly is not very likely to ask the ILF where they got their supplies, and the ILF itself don't seem to care much who delivers, so long as they do.

I hope you understand despite the misalignment afflicting your personality, it would not be appropriate for me to acknowledge those who facilitated the delivery of aid. Should they wish to comment they will.

BloodBird wrote:

Pragmatic when they need to. A good trait.

Indeed it is. I am glad there are those with more generous natures in judging the motivations of others. I fancy those deserving people whose lives are bettered by the small support we have been able to provide will judge our motives less harshly than you.
Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#31 - 2013-04-06 19:50:09 UTC
Please, let's not derail this discussion. Those who would rather devolve into flinging insults or arguing over agendas—take your garbage elsewhere.


The Intaki Prime Relief Effort is a program which ILF has operated since YC111. In its very early days, contributions to the program came mainly from ILF pilots, but as news of the relief effort spread, donations from allies and other unaffiliated groups quickly became the norm.

Many of the donations we receive are made anonymously. We respect that these individuals or groups wish to keep their identities private, even from us, whatever the reason.

At times, donations have also been received from individuals or groups whose backgrounds, activities, or affiliations are distasteful to ILF and/or the public. If these organizations choose to make their donations public knowledge, that is their choice. Our security personnel strive to ensure these gestures are not made with ulterior motives in mind and that innocents have not been taken advantage of in the course of making the donated goods available to the citizens of Intaki Prime. Positive actions from such groups should be celebrated and further encouraged, not scorned.

In this latest campaign, I am happy to report the relief effort has received 158,000m3 of various supplies. Our staff and volunteers have been quite busy sorting, repacking, and disseminating these supplies to the surface. Reclamation of the areas hit hardest by the recent combat and orbital bombardments will be greatly accelerated thanks to the generosity of so many.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#32 - 2013-04-06 20:21:58 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Sakaane Eionell wrote:
Please, let's not derail this discussion. Those who would rather devolve into flinging insults or arguing over agendas—take your garbage elsewhere.


The Intaki Prime Relief Effort is a program which ILF has operated since YC111. In its very early days, contributions to the program came mainly from ILF pilots, but as news of the relief effort spread, donations from allies and other unaffiliated groups quickly became the norm.

Many of the donations we receive are made anonymously. We respect that these individuals or groups wish to keep their identities private, even from us, whatever the reason.

At times, donations have also been received from individuals or groups whose backgrounds, activities, or affiliations are distasteful to ILF and/or the public. If these organizations choose to make their donations public knowledge, that is their choice. Our security personnel strive to ensure these gestures are not made with ulterior motives in mind and that innocents have not been taken advantage of in the course of making the donated goods available to the citizens of Intaki Prime. Positive actions from such groups should be celebrated and further encouraged, not scorned.

In this latest campaign, I am happy to report the relief effort has received 158,000m3 of various supplies. Our staff and volunteers have been quite busy sorting, repacking, and disseminating these supplies to the surface. Reclamation of the areas hit hardest by the recent combat and orbital bombardments will be greatly accelerated thanks to the generosity of so many.

Indeed so, I apologize for my part in distracting from the purpose of this conversation and any trouble our announcement has caused. As always any aid given to the Intaki Relief Effort is delivered to those responsible for its distribution. We have not and will not attempt to deliver aid directly to the populace. Such an action would be insensitive, inappropriate, and for reasons discussed by others, impractical. I invite those responsible for receiving and delivering aid to report publicly any attempts by “us” to use our donations for leverage or advantage. If we were to do that then we would be deserving of condemnation.
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#33 - 2013-04-07 16:10:27 UTC
Holding a conversation or argument in here is not directly a derailment - the topic exists to inform people that the Relief Effort exists, and the details are available in the opening post. Beyond that, everything else is bumping the tread, in effect.

Leopold Caine wrote:


Impression? Last time I checked, the Intaki people of Syndicate are denied to colonize planets by a Gallente Federation decree. I am eager to see what kind of euphemism you will come up for this sort of Intaki people's right violation.

(1)

Yet some seem to have an issue with our philanthropy. I don't see why the sudden shock, our 'criminal outfit' is not unknown for its humanitarian efforts.

(2)

The only thing I conclude here is Msr. Bird is just somewhat frustrated that we obviously care more about the Intaki people than he does. I'd advise to donate some assets of your own instead of impolitely questioning the agenda of good-natured people willing to help.

(3)



1) I was talking about the population of a planet named Intaki, not the pitiful descendants of a mere five thousand Intaki who were exiled two centuries ago, most of them being criminals.

That the syndicate ended up the way they did is not surprising to me in the least, nor is the fact that you, an Angel operative, would love to support them. Your allies in the Serpentis deal with them on a daily basis, after all. At this rate, far as I see it the "do-not-settle-planets" decree was a merciless move when it was enacted but by now, it's one of the reasons that syndicate has not devolved into a full-blown criminal faction the likes of your own.

2) Your criminal outfit is known to grease the wheels of your pitiful PR department when able to give the more naive and gullible the impression you are all upstanding people who "just want to help".

Forgive me for failing to consider an entity like the Angel Cartel as being capable of true charity. There is no such thing as philanthropy to the Angels, it is all a PR stunt.

3) Cute, I have not seen anyone try the "divide the call-sign and use a piece as his last name before."

Very original.

You don't care about the Intaki people at all. You don't care about anyone but yourselves, and sometimes, not even that. You donate to the relief effort? See point 2. You assist the syndicate? See point 1.

The Angel Cartel is worthless, serving only as a danger to every single man and woman in the various empires through a variety of means, and the sooner your existence is eradicated from this cluster the sooner everyone else will be measurably more safe.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#34 - 2013-04-07 17:04:13 UTC
The Intaki Liberation Front, whatever their politics and past (albeit, probably unwitting) support of Caldari State military operations in the Intaki system, is making a good move trying to support the planetary population after the recent ground fighting on Intaki Prime.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

BloodBird
The Crucible.
#35 - 2013-04-07 17:48:49 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
The Intaki Liberation Front, whatever their politics and past (albeit, probably unwitting) support of Caldari State military operations in the Intaki system, is making a good move trying to support the planetary population after the recent ground fighting on Intaki Prime.


They have been at it since long before that, actually.

I too applaud their efforts, but I have been trying myself to support more than just my own home-system. After all, all systems in Placid under the CEWPA treaty except Intaki were the ones to actually be seriously oppressed by the State's mega-corporations.

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#36 - 2013-04-12 01:49:08 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
The Intaki Liberation Front, whatever their politics and past (albeit, probably unwitting) support of Caldari State military operations in the Intaki system, is making a good move trying to support the planetary population after the recent ground fighting on Intaki Prime.


Ground fighting on Intaki Prime? What? Is my SCOPE feed glitching again? These fluid routers out here in the Outer Regions seem to get some interference from time to time..
Ynot Drarig
Drarig Mining and Exploration Corporation
Metallicus Vehementi
#37 - 2013-04-12 16:53:44 UTC
Sakaane Eionell wrote:
In recent days the Intaki system has been subject to unfortunate events which have had a variety of disruptive or destructive consequences for local businesses and residents. In light of this and in cooperation with requests made by the Intaki Assembly, the Intaki Liberation Front has brought in extra volunteers and staff to ensure efficient and timely handling of supplies donated via our Intaki Prime Relief Effort program.

At this time, supplies are being earmarked specificially to aid in the reclamation of sites where existing infrastructure abandoned by Mordu's Legion and Ishukone, which might have been converted by local groups for other uses, was damaged or destroyed outright. Plans are in progress to rebuild or renovate certain locations, while others will be cleared so indigenous flora and fauna may be reintroduced. In particular, there is a need for construction blocks and tools, certain electronic and mechanical parts, metal scraps, fertilizer, and soil.

Areas impacted by ground fighting have requested aid to replenish local supplies of antibiotics and similar commodities.

Interested capsuleers may refer to our Galnet relief program page for details on how to donate. Planetside mercenaries are currently restricted from donating supplies directly, but we are recruiting infantry and would appreciate the additional manpower to assist with ventures like this in the future once restrictions are lifted.

We thank everyone for their attention and generosity. Intaki endures.



Our small Corporation welcomes the efforts that the Intaki are making to reclaim and rebuild the infrastructure abandoned by Mordu's Legion and Ishukone. We are more than happy to support the relief effort and will donate. We will also be endeavouring in our own small way, to provide practical help to develop trade in the region.
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