Intergalactic Summit

You can know that many things about what I do and do not understand, from one simple line?

Most impressive.

I am indifferent about your State. I get involved because you involve yourselves with us. I do not believe that understanding requires complete, intimate familiarity, unless you wish to tell me that your society is entirely alien and can not be understood by anyone who are not Caldari.

What Diana Kim would and would not do is irrelevant to my previous statement. Kim was asked if she believe Tibus Heth was the ruler of the State, she replied with "Indeed, Tibus Heth is a head and leader of the State. You can call him "ruler", if you like this word, [personal insult]. For me, he is the highest authority, supreme officer, the most merited of Caldari and an example to follow."

Diana Kim believes that A) Tibus Heth is *THE* leader of the State. B) The most Merited Caldari. C) An example to follow.

All three of these are false. Practically all other Caldari will point out that

A) The CEP is the "leader" of the State.
B) Heth has shown a complete lack of merit in the vast majority of his recent actions and this *SHOULD* disqualify him for his office.
C) Heth is a very un-Caldari like man who vouches for ideals and actions that fly in the face of the State's traditions and culture, he is as such a very bad example for anyone who consider themselves Caldari to follow.

In short, one could say that Diana Kim is not Caldari, but again, I will leave it for other Caldari to decide what she is instead.

For the benefit of those not fluent in Napanii, this is roughly translated:

"You dishonor the Caldari State by proclaiming Tibus Heth is the ruler over the Calari State."

And you will share your fate with BloodBird.
In fact, you both are Blood Birds.
COME AND FACE ME YOUR SCUM STOP HIDING IN YOUR CAPSULE! I WILL MAKE YOU TO TASTE CALDARI STEEL!

I think Kim may have just challenged Zero Vigilant to a sword fight (or something else involving melee weapons).

This could be interesting. Before I place my bet, what training do each of you have in hand to hand combat?

Over 5 years of taistoiitsu training in monastery.
Over 5 years of professional military training.
I won't give you exact numbers and experience, or it won't be interesting.

At distances of up to 14-20 meters a skilled assailant with a melee weapon or hand-to-hand training can kill you before you can draw, un-safety and fire a pistol.

Rifters at dawn?

There have been a lot of accusations of insanity in this conversation. If I may, I would like to make a few comments on the direction of commentary.

Firstly, I would like to voice my support for Commander Kim-haani. I think I have said this previously, and it has been said by others far more eloquently than I can manage, but she is very much one of us. We may not agree, but disagreement is a good thing. Those who wish peace between the State and Federation have every right to oppose her view, but to call her un-Caldari is simply not true. She is as Caldari as the Kaalakiota peaks.

Secondly - she has been accused of insanity, numerous times, in this very thread as well as in other places. This grieves me. Commander Kim is not insane to the best of my knowledge, and if she were it would not be an insult. I myself am far less mentally capable than she, and we Capsuleers are especially vulnerable to all manner of mental incongruencies and disabilities. The neuroses, psychoses and afflictions we - and non-Capsuleers! - suffer are very serious, and those who live with them are worthy of our praise and admiration, not our scorn.

Please remember. We who bear these cognitive burdens are people too.

Thank you for tolerating my intrusion in the conversation.

"Our beliefs and ways are so awesome they are incomprehensible to the clueless foreigners, thus they have no right to comment on or share their opinions regarding, our ways or any of our people."

I will keep this in mind for any further conversations with you and simply go about and assume a whole bunch of things about you - much like you yourself make assumptions about me - as opposed to trying my hand at understanding things that are not to hard to understand if I try.

Also, sharing one's opinion on someone else based on their actions is not forbidden, nor is it hypocritical to state what one thinks of another but leave it to said other's peers to pass final judgment and make the final call - like I did.

Diana Kim has behaved and spoken in a manner that leads me to conclude that she is far removed from what I have come to identify as "being Caldari" as in, the vast majority of Caldari I have met that honor their ways and behave in a manner they consider honorable, have been far removed from this joke of a woman.

Far as I see it, if "being Caldari" is a condition that has so wide a definition to cover the behavior and ways of someone like Dex Netherland or Stitcher, and Diana Kim and this new guy, TomHorn or whatever his name was, then the term is meaningless - it would contradict itself. The only conclusion then, is that Diana Kim's behavior falls outside of commonly accepted definitions of what "being Caldari" is like.

If you don't like that Pilot Weitong, you will just have to deal.

Understanding of a culture or spirituality does not hold a requirement that you be of that culture or spirituality.
If it did, no culture would ever evolve.

Opinions and judgements are made on a daily basis. You yourself pass judgement on others with the very words you speak, yet tell others that they cannot pass judgement.

as for the third statement, when untrue, an observation may be irrelevant. When true, by it's very nature, an observation must hold some relevance.

Dismissing someone's ideas, whether true or otherwise, simply because you do not agree with them is willful ignorance, that is a dangerous path to take.

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Seven Tribes.
One Matari People.