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WARNING! Anti-provist threat.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-04-03 04:27:33 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, a question, if I may. What is it you expect or desire to have done with these anti-Provists that you report?

Questioning with following detention or outcasting.
Public execution for treason during war time of active anti-Provists.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#42 - 2013-04-03 04:44:59 UTC
If having a differing opinion is treasonous, soon it will be the Provists who are the traitors.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#43 - 2013-04-03 07:25:59 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, a question, if I may. What is it you expect or desire to have done with these anti-Provists that you report?

Questioning with following detention or outcasting.
Public execution for treason during war time of active anti-Provists.


And, sadly, it was the Provists who committed treason against the lawful government of the State today. The Executor was told that this armistice would be happening and the CEP voted in favour of it - the Executor sent his personal thugs to attack State loyalist forces when the Navy would not do his bidding.

Kim-haani - I warned you it might come to this, but you were given the choice of State or Heth and you chose Heth.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-04-03 08:25:59 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, a question, if I may. What is it you expect or desire to have done with these anti-Provists that you report?

Questioning with following detention or outcasting.
Public execution for treason during war time of active anti-Provists.


And, sadly, it was the Provists who committed treason against the lawful government of the State today. The Executor was told that this armistice would be happening and the CEP voted in favour of it - the Executor sent his personal thugs to attack State loyalist forces when the Navy would not do his bidding.

Kim-haani - I warned you it might come to this, but you were given the choice of State or Heth and you chose Heth.


Right now Tibus Heth hold the position of the Executor and is de-facto head of the State. Unability to follow his orders means either treason or incompetence. And it is a big question what could be worse for Caldari citizen.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Bendonni Narri
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-04-03 08:29:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, a question, if I may. What is it you expect or desire to have done with these anti-Provists that you report?

Questioning with following detention or outcasting.
Public execution for treason during war time of active anti-Provists.


And, sadly, it was the Provists who committed treason against the lawful government of the State today. The Executor was told that this armistice would be happening and the CEP voted in favour of it - the Executor sent his personal thugs to attack State loyalist forces when the Navy would not do his bidding.

Kim-haani - I warned you it might come to this, but you were given the choice of State or Heth and you chose Heth.


Right now Tibus Heth hold the position of the Executor and is de-facto head of the State. Unability to follow his orders means either treason or incompetence. And it is a big question what could be worse for Caldari citizen.



That could all change in the blink of an eye dear. If Heth continues his disasterous policies, I expect his head to be mounted on the CEP's wall. And nothing good would entail for you after the revolution.

Witty pop culture reference goes hereĀ 

Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#46 - 2013-04-03 08:36:20 UTC
Oh I don't think they would do something quite that extreme. Furthermore, a removal of Heth from his self-appointed position would entail a counter-revolution, not revolution (since things would, presumably, return to "normalcy").

Cold Wind's Blade || Follow the I-RED Newsfeed & visit the I-RED GalNet site!

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#47 - 2013-04-03 08:48:18 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, a question, if I may. What is it you expect or desire to have done with these anti-Provists that you report?

Questioning with following detention or outcasting.
Public execution for treason during war time of active anti-Provists.


And, sadly, it was the Provists who committed treason against the lawful government of the State today. The Executor was told that this armistice would be happening and the CEP voted in favour of it - the Executor sent his personal thugs to attack State loyalist forces when the Navy would not do his bidding.

Kim-haani - I warned you it might come to this, but you were given the choice of State or Heth and you chose Heth.


Right now Tibus Heth hold the position of the Executor and is de-facto head of the State. Unability to follow his orders means either treason or incompetence. And it is a big question what could be worse for Caldari citizen.

The direction of the State is ostensibly set by the CEP, while they have been willing to rubber stamp Heth's policies in the past, the fact still stands, they are in charge Heth is not. In acting against the CEP, Heth is the traitor. HE is supposed to follow THEIR orders.

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#48 - 2013-04-03 08:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Korsavius
Xindi Kraid wrote:
The direction of the State is ostensibly set by the CEP, while they have been willing to rubber stamp Heth's policies in the past, the fact still stands, they are in charge Heth is not. In acting against the CEP, Heth is the traitor. HE is supposed to follow THEIR orders.

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.


Sound logic. I'm afraid it will be in vain, however. Believe me when I say that Kim is beyond reasoning with. Let the little dog bark and bark, her bite is not terrible.

Cold Wind's Blade || Follow the I-RED Newsfeed & visit the I-RED GalNet site!

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-04-03 10:59:14 UTC
Heth's power is slipping from his grasp almost as fast as his sanity, as are the remaining State loyalist capsuleers willing to defend his actions.

But I think there'll always be one pilot - one sad, lonely, deluded pilot - who'll stick with him until the bitter end despite all common sense and be dragged into hell with him. Can't say I'll shed bitter tears for either of them.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-04-03 11:12:00 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.

In the same way YOUR head is NOT your body. So, could you please come closer to me, so I could cut your head off, since it isn't part of your body anyway. No, really, you don't need your head. You are pretty fine without it.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#51 - 2013-04-03 12:48:12 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.

In the same way YOUR head is NOT your body. So, could you please come closer to me, so I could cut your head off, since it isn't part of your body anyway. No, really, you don't need your head. You are pretty fine without it.

The head of the state is the Caldari Executive panel. By your metaphor, Heth and the CPD is a brain tumor, malignant and fatal if not excised.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#52 - 2013-04-03 17:54:58 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.

In the same way YOUR head is NOT your body. So, could you please come closer to me, so I could cut your head off, since it isn't part of your body anyway. No, really, you don't need your head. You are pretty fine without it.


What a foolish notion given Heth and the CPD hasn't been in existence for more than five years. No really, go ahead and compare Heth to the human head, cause we all know the head doesn't develop until years after the rest of the body. Roll

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-04-05 01:21:13 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:

A true Caldari citizen is loyal to the STATE and Heth is NOT the State.

In the same way YOUR head is NOT your body. So, could you please come closer to me, so I could cut your head off, since it isn't part of your body anyway. No, really, you don't need your head. You are pretty fine without it.

The head of the state is the Caldari Executive panel. By your metaphor, Heth and the CPD is a brain tumor, malignant and fatal if not excised.

If you have such problem it doesn't mean that the State has.
Anyway, just come closer. My proposal of radical surgery is still in effect.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-04-05 01:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
People: let the moron rant. She's harming nobody and making our side look good.

Arguing with her is only going to damage your own sanity and intelligence.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-04-05 11:47:00 UTC
You know, there's a rather apt anatomy of a violent mob that most Corporate Security Officers learn in the early days of their training at respective academies.

First there is the leader of the mob at its center who seeks to incite others to do their bidding not through reason but through the emotive language of anger, hatred and violence.

Then there are the lieutenants who re-affirm the words to the crowd and seek to cultivate legitimacy of action through popular support of the crowds.

Then there are those who carry out the acts of the leader and their lieutenants as they seek to cultivate favour and recognition.

Then there is the vast majority of a crowd who are simply swept up in the frenzy of activity, where the proximity of the crowd creates a divorce of personal responsibility in the face of perceived popular sentiment and fear of violent reprisal.

Increasingly it is becoming apparent that the CPD is behaving no better than a violent mob. Where there exists appeal to emotions but not to reason. Where the only law is force. Where there is no dialogue, no discussion, only incitement to acts of violence.

We are the Caldari State, a nation once ruled by the principles of justice and the laws of the corporations as laid down by our forefathers who had that right to do so, for they earned it with their sweat and their blood. If an unruly band of armed thugs and hooligans have forgotten that fact, then there certainly is no issue in my mind of reminding them of it with the legitimate application of CEP Authority for any enemy of the CEP is an enemy of the State and just like any enemy, requires to be put down with swift and decisive action.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Zero Vigilant
Adamantine Corporation
#56 - 2013-04-06 01:27:55 UTC
Commander Kim, do you know what the Caldari State is?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-04-06 09:14:10 UTC
Zero Vigilant wrote:
Commander Kim, do you know what the Caldari State is?

Caldari State is the only true meritocracy in these parts of universe. It is a State of the superior nation, divided into eight megacorporations and united under Tibus Heth's rule. And, of course, Caldari State is Caldari people, it is in each of Caldari citizens, who do their part and works with all their soul for the State, because in the end, we work for each of other citizen, for every family member and every neighbor. Because of this, we are the strongest State. While we stand together, we are invincible.

We should not allow ant-provist scum to divide and separate us!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
#58 - 2013-04-06 13:02:20 UTC
you divide and separate us
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-04-06 13:06:58 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
... true meritocracy ... united under Tibus Heth's rule...We should not allow ant-provist scum to divide and separate us!


You are contradicting yourself. Meritocracy is by its very nature competitive. If you value meritocracy then you value the idea that nobody is irreplaceable, that a degree of division and separation is healthy and desirable because it provides the opportunity for talent, hard work and all the other metrics of merit to be demonstrated, and the room for those who demonstrate their merit to supplant their predecessors.

Which is it? Do you value the meritocracy, or do you value unification under a ruler? Because the latter is incompatible with the former. Unquestioning obedience to a leader is authoritarian dictatorship, which is inherently un-meritocratic. The moment you place any individual, concept or behaviour as being exempt from the meritocracy, then you do not HAVE a meritocracy.

Which will it be?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#60 - 2013-04-06 16:15:42 UTC
You should take your own advice and ignore Kim, Pilot Stitcher. Arguing with an idiot only results in you being dragged down to their level and then being beaten by their experience in being idiotic.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.