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An open question to CCP about AFK mining.

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Dave Stark
#161 - 2013-04-05 22:34:55 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:
Lets throw ice mining 5 on top of my current skills on that miner alt.
Let us put T2 Ice Harversters, Ice Rig, 2 T2 ice upgrades, and a Damage Control (since I have to worry about ganks in a belt) on a retriever.

EFT works that out to 659m3 per minute in yield. This works out to 36.41 min to fill my 24.2km cargo. Sound about right?
24 Glacial Mass at 120,000 = 2880000 isk.
2,880,000 / 36.41 * 60 = 4,745,948.91 isk per hour

So just under 5 mil per hour for ice.

Now lets put the same character without the extra week of ice training in an ore retriever. Two T1 strips, 3 mining upgrades since I'm yet to have a ganker come looking for me in 8 months.

My ore yield works out to 965 m3 per minute
24,200 / 965 = 25 minutes to fill at the keyboard
Condensed scordite 29isk/unit. I'm in a mostly empty system and condensed/massive scordite and azure/rich plag makes up most of my haul.
161333 units per hold
4,678,657 isk per hold

4,678,657 / 25 * 60 = 11,228,776.8 isk per hour

Or, if I'm a bot aspirant and only keep the strips mining 2/3rds of the time, not short cycling the near depleted rocks, I'll make about half of what I would actively mining - 5,614,388.4 / hour. Or about 18% more than ice mining.


If I've horribly butchered this somewhere, please point it out and I will start training ice mining on said alt. But keep in mind I have absolutely 0 interest in training up to an exhumer, let alone exhumer 5, at the cost of the combat pilot on the account(s). I also have perfect refine on high sec ore, but not on Ice products. More skill point investment into a bonus cash side project.

tl;dr: slightly more effort, less skill points, slightly more isk, significantly less risk


what the hell are you waffling about?
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#162 - 2013-04-05 22:36:11 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
AFK miners by virtue of being AFK are not playing the game.

It's simple really.

Is the character logged in and in space, vulnerable to being shot by other players?

If the answer is yes, they are playing the game and interacting with it/other players. Whether they are at the keyboard or not.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#163 - 2013-04-05 22:38:23 UTC
I'm subtracting a point from my original assessment because OP obviously cannot do maths.

0/10



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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#164 - 2013-04-05 22:39:19 UTC
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