Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I am aware Eve is a 'sandbox' but there IS a non player population that is severely under utilized, we see pirates everywhere but I've never seen a navy ship kill one or patrol the belts. A more alive galaxy would create a more dynamic environment and enable players to instigate more PvP interactions through PvE and suspect flags as well as giving sov holders a more unique way to provide their sheep with content rather than standard, grindfest anomalies and a more diverse enviromnent for lowsec and militia corps.

I would personally like to see more NPC's that represent the non-capsuleer population of New Eden, a couple of ideas so far are :

- NPC Navy Patrols (depending on what faction/militia is in control/borders).
- NPC Navy/Concord exploration sites (like the one in monolaz constellation)
- NPC Corporation ining expeditions (NPC miners + haulers/orcas, these could also provide dynamic content if under attack by NPC pirates or players).
- NPC couriers. (system to system)
- Suspect Flags for players attacking non violent NPC's and sites like the arek jaalen site.
- NPC Escorts (combat).
- Corporation defence ships that would launch and warp to protect their own.
- Missions Having a chance to give a related expidition (like nullsec anomalies)
- Sovereignty outposts able to hire and support NPC Agents tied into SOV upgrade costs. (Missions against local rat type, alliance/corporation owned Loyalty point stores?)
- Missions and exploration having a more modular set up (like the tech 3 ships) e.g a mission has 3 rooms, each room is selected from a group of related 'modules' for that content and the last room having a chance for expidition with all rewards based on a gradient of security status (1.0 being low to -1.0 being the highest).
- Interaction between NPCs based on standings (Including player/corp/alliance) ie pirates attacking the navy and vice versa.
- Ability to talk to some higher level agents remotely as well as being able to select missions.
- Pirate militia and standings that MEAN something.
- Dealing of mineral rights to NPC corporations from SOV holding alliances.
- Opposing Factions (including Pirates) raids on supply lines/stations/resources.
- Mining vessels creating "noise" that attract NPC pirates, more mining more noise, bigger rats.
- anomaly agents.

Very awesome idea for pirate logs and their potential use:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230646&find=unread

More detailed thread about NPC fleets:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=231269&find=unread

Couldnt agree more, theres a whole lot of 'ORE' space out there and not a single ORE miner; and we see rats on gates in low sec (technically still empire space) but no navy?? Its quite bizzarre.

I mean ORE has space, they hold 'sov' and have stations... how the hell do they do that with no ships??

surprised there is no interest in this, theres so much that could be done with it from an immersive point of view

I don't think you read the thread topic correctly, in any case game immersion is always important not to mention that the above ideas would actively create more room for instigating pvp, especially in highsec. I'd also like to point out that eve online is a 3D sci-fi MMORPG not an MMO PvP sandbox game, if it was just a PvP game it would have a lower player base and depreciate faster than it has.

Just to point out a few things, currently pirate NPC's attack anyone, even those with high standings, Incursions were not 'PvP' content, neither were wormholes, exploration sites are not PvP, neither are missions, industry or mining, IF pirate NPC's didn't shoot at players with high standings towards that faction (like navy rats) then they could be repped, creating more suspect flags and giving players more scope to get involved within PvE FOR PvP.

umm...these are all player run activities.


What he is getting at. Eve is player run. NPC's don't put on shows for us, we make our own shows. It just so happens pvp is where this stands out better.


Also most of these these activities get pvp'y real quick. YOu get the wrong wh entrance, quite a few wh empires will show how pvp works in wh's. Maybe day 1 was all pve and sunshine. day 2...lots of people said this wh is ours, and built up defenses for them.

Industry is pvp.... market pvp is more brutal than actual ship combat in eve. If one day me and some friends come across you and you say well hell....how about I call 1 of you out, 1 v 1. I and my friends would honor that, you'd get jsut 1 of us. Even in the cold space of low and null you can find people to keep a gentlemans's aggreement.

Now its me and you in jita selling the same item and you really need that sale bad for some tear jerking hard luck story. I don't care even if the story is true...I will take that sale from you as best I can. And I will try like hell to take your next sale after that if I can too.

You don't seem to get what pvp means, it means "Player versus Player". I do agree on industry being pvp to a certain extend.

Incursions is a pve activity aswell as sleeps, there's no player controling. It's an AI.

I would like to see Concord patrols through low-sec. It would be fun to watch.

Forums ate my post.

I endorse this idea and point out that it would go well with Odyssey's exploration revamp. It would make the zones feel different.

Increasing immersion sounds like a good idea. Besides saftey is relative, no?

Like... a chronical... and certainly no one wastes any time on those... (Chronical Portal).


Having NPCs that take actions in the game doesn't stop this from being a Player Sandbox. It just gives players a pre-built "Sand Castles" to play in... or knock over. *edit: ...or build on...


Yes... NPCs certainly don't put on shows for us (and players certainly have no influence in them):

Sakuuvestaa LE
Battle for Caldari Prime
Algogille LE
Minmatar Unity LE
Evaulon LE
Ohkunen LE
Example Sansha LE
Elder Fleet fluff
Seyllin Event
Ect....

Basically this thread is advocating the same thing just automated.