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The Sandbox!

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saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-04 16:33:24 UTC
"The Sandbox"

The most used argument in the whole of EVE. Can justify any argument, any engagement, pretty much anything going on in game.

Yet the sandbox is not quite so sandy after all. Go figureCool

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-04 16:36:13 UTC
Are you trying to "themepark" my use of the word "sandbox"? That goes against the sandbox, man.

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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-04-04 16:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
I like how Psychotic Monk puts it that the competitive aspect of EVE is more attractive than the sand box per se.

It's the rampant competition that allows us to do what we want, and to the limit of our abilities, make others do what we want.

Also, I need more carebears to do my survey on high-sec aggression in their high-sec sandbox: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dLcM27c_qDyOIxFgE4Zan_T8j_eZDDeCUAEL4lwXGC8/viewform

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Cryxx Nadoa
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-04-04 16:38:58 UTC
The sand must flow...
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#5 - 2013-04-04 17:32:29 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
I like how Psychotic Monk puts it that the competitive aspect of EVE is more attractive than the sand box per se.

It's the rampant competition that allows us to do what we want, and to the limit of our abilities, make others do what we want.

Also, I need more carebears to do my survey on high-sec aggression in their high-sec sandbox: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dLcM27c_qDyOIxFgE4Zan_T8j_eZDDeCUAEL4lwXGC8/viewform


Just speaking for myself I enjoy the experiment of Eve much more than any competition. Trying different things out and exploring the mechanics. If I were to play Eve from a competitive standpoint then it would not be any where near as interesting as I avoid situations that may result in loss and pursue only those that may result in gain.

Some of the most interesting engagements that I have had in Eve were the result of "poor" play and bad ideas, the fact that the world is open enough to try different things is also part of what makes it interesting and fun. You need both the ability to compete with other players and to measure your ideas against other gamers and the open concept of the sandbox that allows for a great variety of tactics and strategy.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2013-04-04 17:37:42 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
Yet the sandbox is not quite so sandy after all.
How so?
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-04-04 17:42:59 UTC
the forums can be quite sandy.

forums.  serious business.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#8 - 2013-04-04 17:44:09 UTC
Eliminate alts (would never happen, they'd drown from tears) and second accounts (not possible, even if they wanted to) and you would have more of a sandbox. Sandbox just isn't the right term.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-04 17:48:37 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
"The Sandbox"

The most used argument in the whole of EVE. Can justify any argument, any engagement, pretty much anything going on in game.

Yet the sandbox is not quite so sandy after all. Go figureCool

We get to choose what we call the sandbox, its part of the sandbox.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-04-04 17:54:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Tippia wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
Yet the sandbox is not quite so sandy after all.
How so?


Those standing in the middle of the sandbox are wrapped in bubble-wrap by mommy, who kicks anyone in the nuts who touches them

Those standing outside the middle get their wrists gently slapped, for poking others in the eye.

Those standing at the outer edges eat each other.

Not so much a sandbox but three shards in reality, but you can jump between them based on your daily desire to be bubble wrapped, poked in the eye, or eaten alive.

Would you like to know more?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2013-04-04 17:56:59 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Those standing in the middle of the sandbox are wrapped in bubble-wrap by mommy, who kicks anyone in the nuts who touches them

Those standing outside the middle get their wrists gently slapped, for poking others in the eye.

Those standing at the outer edges eat each other.
…and how does that make it a not-sandbox?

Quote:
Not so much a sandbox but three shards in reality
…except, of course, that there is deep integration between the three that makes one happens in one have effects on what happens in the other, and that “shard” is pretty much exactly the wrong word to describe this kind of behaviour.
CCP Manifest
CCP Retirement Home
#12 - 2013-04-04 19:11:05 UTC
I always explain everything in EVE with "Nanites!"

Sandbox! Might be better.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2013-04-04 19:37:11 UTC
Since anybody can say it's a sandbox, because it's a sandbox, it's therefore not a sandbox, so I'm not going to say it's a sandbox.

(There. You have all been goth-served)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Grendel Sickswitch
#14 - 2013-04-04 19:42:58 UTC
technically super mario brothers was a sandbox too. you can do what you like; stand still, jump on the same spot, run forwards and backwards, etc. no one forcing you to finish the level.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#15 - 2013-04-04 19:51:52 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Eliminate alts (would never happen, they'd drown from tears) and second accounts (not possible, even if they wanted to) and you would have more of a sandbox. Sandbox just isn't the right term.


Multi-sandboxing is still sandbox.

Your argument lacks peanut butter.

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Grigori Annunaki
#16 - 2013-04-04 19:55:00 UTC
Clearly Jovian sand-nanites. Clearly.
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-04-04 19:59:03 UTC
Everything in eve works because of the planck bubble stabilizer , even nanites.

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Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-04-04 20:02:21 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Since anybody can say it's a sandbox, because it's a sandbox, it's therefore not a sandbox, so I'm not going to say it's a sandbox.

(There. You have all been goth-served)

just to be a smartass :P your pic reminds of Snape (or however his name is spelled) from those Harry Potter movies!
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-04-04 20:03:08 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
technically super mario brothers was a sandbox too. you can do what you like; stand still, jump on the same spot, run forwards and backwards, etc. no one forcing you to finish the level.

You forgot the "clear level timer" :P
fukier
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-04-04 20:24:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
Yet the sandbox is not quite so sandy after all.
How so?


not enough rokhs i guess?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
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