Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We already have a tracking bonus ship with the fittings for beams. We don't have a fast kiting ship with an optimal bonus.

-Liang

What? Are you nuts? That 'nearly useless' bonus lets you push 800 dps with a full armour tank

Really don't like the direction of the navy vexor changes.

To be honest, I never made a Navy Vexor fit in EFT since I can fly an Ishtar and guns on an Ishtar are hardly good for anything but to draw aggro, therefore I assumed they wouldn't perform any better on a Vexor (Navy or otherwise). But with ability to launch 5 heavy or sentry drones (while still having enough room for a stack medium and light drones), I think the new Navy Vexor can still have DPS close to the number you've mentioned. It might even be good for easier C1/C2 WH sites (and with velocity bonus, you should be able to pull them in before Sleepers pop them), and it should definitely be able to do an average lvl 4 mission.

Also, I think that having a bonus to both gun and drone damage is a bad design, much like two weapon systems bonus on Scythe Fleet Issue and Typhoon. Myrmidon (and new Prophecy) works well without a gun bonus. While you can counter that by reducing number of turret slots, that just makes gun bonus inferior if you compare it with (passive or active) tanking bonuses that are seen on Prophecy, Gila or Myrmidon.

I'm not a very good PvP ship designer, but from my eft warrioring tonight it looked like this ship had some good potential. Focused more around the turret bonus with autocannons because it's the crazy high one, it was able to do 800mm plate + mwd, 800mm plate + ab + HAM, and 2 LSE + mwd. I was a bit concerned about the XLASB w/180's fit, because I wasn't sure what corners to cut when cramming 9 modules into ~190 CPU (it was really really close to being able to fit a RLML also).

But they ScyFI seems to be really flexible, and I really need to figure out how to fit PvP ships. I especially need to figure out how to abuse the 90 signature radius, which just seems like a huge boon of hidden survivability.

Decently fit current VNI will get near 780 dps. (one drone damage amplifier), maxes out at above 1k dps with gank fit.
Decently fit proposed VNI will get 680 to 720 dps. (one drone damage amplifier), maxes out at low 900 dps with gank fit.

However, proposed VNI will have an extra midslot (cap booster), two extra utility high slots (nuets), and have massive flexibility with that drone speed/tracking bonus + larger drone bay.

Overall, new VNI is a better ship.

Doing this would push the OP levels of the VNI to just above "Winmatar", and slightly below Chuck Norris.

804 dps, 1 dda, electrons.

I should have qualified: I don't like the direction of the navy vexor bonus and turret reduction changes. The midslot and drone bay increases were I think a given, as a result of the original vexor updates, but the bonus changes seem a bit out of the blue.

Even with the fitting reduction on beams, its still going to be a PITA to fit them. Since you're going to be engaging in warp disruptor range most of the time Pulses are far better especially with the optimal range bonus.

Pulses with Scorch will probably do a bit less than Beam with MF, but it will have much better tracking, close range dps, more fitting to utilize tank, and less capacitor usage.

32km range with Scorch is far more than enough on the Navy Omen, using beams on it is a joke.

If you want to use beams go fly a Tachyon Oracle.

The Omen Navy Issue still needs more dps to be worth using, otherwise people will just fly the omen, harbinger, and zealot instead.

As far as drones go, yes, if you are going to be going solo.

Mediums would be the choice if you can rely on the rest of your gang to keep frigates in check (perhaps with a shiney destroyer or two).

The zealot should be better as far as that goes, and I agree about the 2 flights of lights and the low dps however.