EVE General Discussion

when a war is declared, High by your definition and mine, is not any safer than low
High 1. having a great or considerable extent
One word can have many definitions and one can change that definition as they wish
Yes you have accepted you will/may be agressed. But in high you have also been told the agresser will be swiftly punished. This lead to the art of ganking. A beautiful thing that takes skill. More skill than camping someone in a station, more fun too. but enough with that.
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People do. It turned EvE from the O. K. Corral to Dodge City, complete with a please turn in your guns before entering requirement.

They serve no purpose to tell the truth.

Was in a corp and they were war decced. They didn't seem to understand the purpose of the war dec. They played right into it until the last few days. It was to stall production and they did exactly that...came out with the firepower and all, and the mercs just sat in the station watching the clock. They were so happy to prowl around and act big, meanwhile the bread and butter money went to waste (like I said PvPers think so linearly, all you need to keep them happy is to identify some targets, and like a dog, throw them a bone).

If folks need a isk sink and want some entertainment, ask for some paint for your ships. That at least is more worthwhile than paying for docking games or losing isk.

they may not learn, but they sure are loud. Tis a shame

And guess who are coming over?

The real fight to come is when the very folks you ridicule are the majority, and CCP has to come to some conclusions -- follow the money or lose it.

I have extensive war dec experience. My "main" when I started playing Eve was an industrialist. After getting tired of constant war decs, and the indy corp I was in with IRL friends never fighting back, I started a combat toon, which eventually became my main, because fighting back introduced me to PVP, and how much fun it can be. With no war dec system, I would never have been introduced to PVP most likely. I probably would be mining and watching paint dry, would have gotten bored, and quit Eve. There are many flaws with OP in my opinion.



This is just not true. Sure, some people use it to troll others. Some people do it just for fun. Others, such as mercenary corporations, do it for both fun and as a business model for their corporation. It's not always to troll.



If you played other MMOs on PVP servers, they do. They have the safe "newbie" areas, and then they have PVP zones.

This has nothing to do with war decs. And is part of the appeal of Eve, at least for me. There is no true safety, anywhere in the game. I can kill people without needing to war dec them, also.



Why would you argue that high sec is not safe enough, and then advocate faster locking times? This is counter productive. Also, this is unneeded. I don't always catch my targets, but I don't have a problem with it enough to need faster locking times or vast, unneeded changes to basic mechanics. Want faster lock times? Fly ships with higher scan res.

There are tons of ways of finding this info out. There are ridiculous amounts of out of game tools. When a war dec for any of my old corps went live, my corps always had a member list mailed to them by me with both corp members, known associates, and potential alts, and either before the dec went live, or withing 10 minutes of me logging in.

There is no need for anything here. Would it be nice to have an ingame version of the multitude of out of game tools I utilize to run my intel? Sure, but why have a vast system implemented when it is really not needed? I'd rather have CCP focus their efforts on things that matter more.



I think what you need is an intel officer. No, I am not applying to your corp/alliance. Ever hear of a locater agents? Alt scouts?



These, all of these ideas, are either already implemented in some fashion, have out of game tools that can be utilized for such purposes, or are unnecessary. Sorry to burst your bubble.

As mentioned in the thread numerous times, you can opt out of wars very easily as well. Quit corp. There are other methods available to stop or prevent decs as well, or to get deccers off your back. (Hire mercs, deny them fights, fight back and kick them so hard in the...... pixels...... that they move on to easier targets. Pay them off. All require something, be it isk, time/organization, well knit corp, combat pilots, etc.

This again?

My list grows.

This is what i posted in another similar thread not to long ago.

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