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Bot hunting: A series of polite questions
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Eyrok Mauldin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-04-02 17:30:04 UTC
I'd like to get into bot hunting, but I don't know how on earth are you supposed to tell the difference between, say, a Retriever that's AFK-mining and a Retriever piloted by a bot.
Are there any features that give away a bot away, such as overly repeated behaviour?
Is there any way to test suspicious pilots to see if they are bots?
And, of course, which areas of the universe are the ones most prone to botting?
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-02 17:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Eyrok Mauldin wrote:
I'd like to get into bot hunting, but I don't know how on earth are you supposed to tell the difference between, say, a Retriever that's AFK-mining and a Retriever piloted by a bot.
Are there any features that give away a bot away, such as overly repeated behaviour?
Is there any way to test suspicious pilots to see if they are bots?
And, of course, which areas of the universe are the ones most prone to botting?


Here is how you tell the difference.... pop it and if the pod keeps going back and forth you have successfully found a bot.

Get tears then you found a player.

Most common areas for botting are nullsec... botting ratters.

Highsec generally within a few jumps of a trade hub.

You also have your Level 4 mission hubs.... mission bots.

List goes on.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#3 - 2013-04-02 18:17:32 UTC
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Runeme Shilter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-04-02 20:56:56 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.


That's a pretty good tip! While not all code-violators are bots, no botter is allowed to carry a New Order mining permit. So, if you find a permit holder he is definitely not a bot.
Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-04-02 21:08:09 UTC
Runeme Shilter wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.


That's a pretty good tip! While not all code-violators are bots, no botter is allowed to carry a New Order mining permit. So, if you find a permit holder he is definitely not a bot.


Make your list public so it can be examined.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-02 21:29:24 UTC
Runeme Shilter wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.


That's a pretty good tip! While not all code-violators are bots, no botter is allowed to carry a New Order mining permit. So, if you find a permit holder he is definitely not a bot.


Umm... not true... shot many bots with so called permits... in fact I am starting to think you have something against players and allow the bots to do there thing. Alts?
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#7 - 2013-04-02 22:33:14 UTC
You could also just ask them in local, "Hey, xxx, are you a bot?" If they don't deny it within 5 seconds or so,then they are either a bot, afk, or ignoring you. All of the above are excellent reasons for ganking them.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2013-04-03 00:37:56 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Runeme Shilter wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.


That's a pretty good tip! While not all code-violators are bots, no botter is allowed to carry a New Order mining permit. So, if you find a permit holder he is definitely not a bot.


Umm... not true... shot many bots with so called permits... in fact I am starting to think you have something against players and allow the bots to do there thing. Alts?

You've shot many a bot with a permit?, or you've shot many a bot with a bio that claims they have a permit? unless you have access to the list of permit holders you can't say for sure. Your best bet, evemail someone from the New Order, they'll be able to tell you either way, and any bots will die some more, they don't like people using them as cover for botting.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#9 - 2013-04-03 01:04:24 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
You could also just ask them in local, "Hey, xxx, are you a bot?" If they don't deny it within 5 seconds or so,then they are either a bot, afk, or ignoring you. All of the above are excellent reasons for ganking them.


Hey wait, just realized that I'm a Bot. **** all you bot-hating motherfuckers! Bring it!X

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-04-03 01:32:39 UTC
Eyrok Mauldin wrote:
I'd like to get into bot hunting, but I don't know how on earth are you supposed to tell the difference between, say, a Retriever that's AFK-mining and a Retriever piloted by a bot.
Are there any features that give away a bot away, such as overly repeated behaviour?
Is there any way to test suspicious pilots to see if they are bots?
And, of course, which areas of the universe are the ones most prone to botting?

an afk miner is merely a less advanced bot
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-03 02:04:25 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:

an afk miner is merely a less advanced bot


I'm not less advanced. I'm just lazy.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38
Wescro2
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-04-03 02:26:00 UTC
Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:
Make your list public so it can be examined.


Just out of curiosity, what would a public examination yield?
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#13 - 2013-04-03 09:09:34 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.



Shame CCP has protected bots by giving them massive tanks. Bots pay subs jsut as players do, ccp would prefer you left them alone.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-04-03 13:44:05 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Runeme Shilter wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Kill them all and let the CCP Security Team sort them out.Big smile

If you are looking for a real criteria, check their bio to see if they have purchased a mining permit from James 315.


That's a pretty good tip! While not all code-violators are bots, no botter is allowed to carry a New Order mining permit. So, if you find a permit holder he is definitely not a bot.


Umm... not true... shot many bots with so called permits... in fact I am starting to think you have something against players and allow the bots to do there thing. Alts?

You've shot many a bot with a permit?, or you've shot many a bot with a bio that claims they have a permit? unless you have access to the list of permit holders you can't say for sure. Your best bet, evemail someone from the New Order, they'll be able to tell you either way, and any bots will die some more, they don't like people using them as cover for botting.


Could Eve mail me and I'll check. I have yet to find a permit holding bot... I do not believe they exist. Perhaps a reward could be in order to the one who finds a bot who has a permit (bio and on spreadsheet) and that character is banned.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Vin King
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-04-03 14:12:38 UTC
Eyrok Mauldin wrote:
...how on earth are you supposed to tell the difference between, say, a Retriever that's AFK-mining and a Retriever piloted by a bot.


As far as we're concerned, there is no difference!

Proud member of the New Order of HighSec
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-04-03 18:07:52 UTC
Convo and duel request them, if they both auto-deny they are highly likely to be a bot.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#17 - 2013-04-03 19:04:27 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
Convo and duel request them, if they both auto-deny they are highly likely to be a bot.

I turn off invites and duels when I solo hunt as I don't need the distraction. No need to worry about me when I warp next to you. I am just a bot Pirate
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-04-03 22:47:02 UTC
Kimo Khan wrote:
Moonlit Raid wrote:
Convo and duel request them, if they both auto-deny they are highly likely to be a bot.

I turn off invites and duels when I solo hunt as I don't need the distraction. No need to worry about me when I warp next to you. I am just a bot Pirate

Will you be in a mining barge?

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#19 - 2013-04-03 23:12:36 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
Kimo Khan wrote:
Moonlit Raid wrote:
Convo and duel request them, if they both auto-deny they are highly likely to be a bot.

I turn off invites and duels when I solo hunt as I don't need the distraction. No need to worry about me when I warp next to you. I am just a bot Pirate

Will you be in a mining barge?


Battle Skiff!

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-04-03 23:50:55 UTC
When i first played eve a long time ago bot huntting was great sport.

No buying plex for isk

So

Bots everywhere.

And...at some point they decided that drone plexes in low sec were best for farming. Holding 3 apocs hostage in a jaguar....now those were the days
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