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I disagree. The access hangars from anywhere within the shields is *huge* for industrialists. I have an alt who does highsec POS stuff (was invention, now T2/T3 production) and that change alone will be very helpful.

Does the new Hangar have MAX TOTAL CAPACITY? or is it working 100% like POCO and have no maximum on sum of member hangars?

This. Most definitely this.

Restocking Arrays is a pain if you have to take a freighter in, and you're unlucky about your exact warp in point.


If I had to pick the 'next' change for POS, it'd probably be completely private hanger arrays. Locked down to a single player (Ideally with a unified inventory in POS ;) )

It was covered. CHAs will continue to exist, so you'll have the option to use them or PHAs at your discretion. If you fear that you won't be able to get on in time to move your own stuff and want directors to be able to do it, put it in a CHA instead.

Also, stuff in POS modules don't show up on killmails now, so why would you expect they'd start to? I'm a software developer with a ton of experience myself, so I feel qualified in saying that by and large developers are lazy creatures. We won't code something we weren't tasked to unless it serves our own laziness (lots of throwaway code snippets or mini projects are produced in order to automate stuff we do manually which would otherwise waste our time). I assume that you just weren't aware that module killmails don't show contents, just the death of the module.



Fozzie already clarified this: there is NOT limited space in the arrays, the structure can store an infinite amount, limited only by the characters who have access to it. e.g. If Alice, Bob, and Carol are in a corp and all three have filled their allotment of a PHA, the fact that Carol has left the corp and didn't take her crap with her does NOT stop Debbie from joining the corp and also filling her allotment of the PHA. The PHA will work just like a customs office: it can accommodate an infinite number of players, you have access to only your stuff, and every character you use that's in corp will be able to use the structure, but nobody can see or take your stuff and it's lost when the customs office is destroyed.

Limited per user. not limited overall.

Good work, but don't lose perspective. Complete POS overhaul still needs to happen.

And soon.

Incorrect. They will have infinite capacity as far as the module is concerned. The limits to capacity are on the characters.

Nobody is shocked that customs offices can store an infinite amount of crap in 35,000 m^3 allotments per character that no other player in the game has access to. The new PHA will be no different, except the amount that can be stored per character will probably be smaller.

It is done this way because it allows the array to remain for personal access only, without worrying that orphaned assets are cutting into other people's available storage space and without the need to give anyone access to it except the character to whom the assets belong. If orphaned assets were to take up the module's available m^3, I'd be the first in line requesting that directors had access to them because it's inevitable that the space would get chewed up by people who aren't playing Eve anymore or who have left the corp.

If you unanchor any structure in a POS, its contents are destroyed. I feel sorry for the people living in your POS, if you didn't know that. You'd have to be pretty stupid to unanchor a module accidentally, since the game asks for confirmation before allowing you to do so.

No competent miner uses the current corp hangar for storage. They use the XL ship array.

POS are not Player Owned STATIONs like stated in the devblog. They used to be player owned structures and I believe they are now player owned starbases.

So, is it me or does this mean that CSAAs will be more prevelant in lowsec, which means nullsec alliances will have to care about this space and figure out how to attack it and defend it well?