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[proposal] bring back „support“ button
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Solo Player
#1 - 2011-10-24 21:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Solo Player
[ISSUE]
I can't believe I can't find dozens of threads filled by madly raving Assembly Hallers demanding this, but I'd really love it if they would

[SOLUTION]
bring back the „support“ button

[DETAILS]
or something like it. While the „like“ button has its draws, it is still an incomplete replacement, as it doesn't easily and reliably show the support a proposal or issue has among the forumgoers (much like the post number). Often, readers „like“ an opposing opinion within the thread or they just don't want to like the author even though they liked the proposed idea.
A „support“ button next to the „like“ one only for the first post in the thread and only in the Assembly Hall might make it a lot easier to gather and recognize popular opinion.


Edit:
A "not supported" button would help putting things in perspective. On the other hand, it could be abused to "shout down" minority issues. In my exprerience, possible abuse always turns into real abuse. But maybe it's worth the risk?
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-24 21:36:34 UTC
Solo Player wrote:
I can't believe I can't find dozens of threads filled by madly raving Assembly Hallers demanding this, but I'd really love it if they would

bring back the „support“ button

or something like it. While the „like“ button has its draws, it is still an incomplete replacement, as it doesn't easily and reliably show the support a proposal or issue has among the forumgoers (much like the post number). Often, readers „like“ an opposing opinion within the thread or they just don't want to like the author even though they liked the proposed idea.
A „support“ button next to the „like“ one only for the first post in the thread and only in the Assembly Hall might make it a lot easier to gather and recognize popular opinion.


Only if we get a "Not Supported" button as well.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2011-10-24 21:40:09 UTC
Supported. The Assembly Hall needs both a "Supported" and "Not Supported" button.

How did you Veterans start?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#4 - 2011-10-25 09:15:41 UTC
Jesus, we have likes, isn't that enough?!

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Solo Player
#5 - 2011-10-25 11:13:36 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Jesus, we have likes, isn't that enough?!


What use are they? They target people or, more precisely, postings. Check out a proposal with lots of likes and you'll find that they do not necessarily signify brad support, but often just gleeful support of a derisive answer. Just as the like for your posting now seems to give support to my proposal.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2011-10-25 14:20:39 UTC
Solo Player wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Jesus, we have likes, isn't that enough?!


What use are they? They target people or, more precisely, postings. Check out a proposal with lots of likes and you'll find that they do not necessarily signify brad support, but often just gleeful support of a derisive answer. Just as the like for your posting now seems to give support to my proposal.


You're right, they do support individual posts (which is better because it's more granular). And you're thinking about it the wrong way, once you recognize that those Likes for dissenting posts are also Dislikes for the OP, it makes a lot more sense.
Solo Player
#7 - 2011-10-25 15:09:22 UTC
Why? It just jumbles all likes of individual posts into one - you have to leaf through the thread to see what the total likes in a thread actually signify. Yes you may consider it a measure of the heat of discussion within, but it might as well be one of general consensus or ridicule.
A support button, on the other hand, would be far easier to interpret and use. If we left the like button as it is, what problems do you see with adding a OP support button?

BTW, I see what you did there... ;)
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#8 - 2011-10-25 15:56:37 UTC
The 'Support' feature of the Assembly Hall should return in the form on two buttons. 'Supported' and 'Opposed' buttons would go a long way in showing CCP and other readers how popular/unpopular a topic is. That said, I think the Like button should stay in its current form.
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-31 00:45:40 UTC
I would support this topic...but I don't have a support button!

(fyi for the mentally ******** that means I am in favor of support/opposed buttons)
Solo Player
#10 - 2011-10-31 21:52:18 UTC
Omega Flames wrote:
I would support this topic...but I don't have a support button!

(fyi for the mentally ******** that means I am in favor of support/opposed buttons)


You are welcome to manly "like" me for now. Cool
Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#11 - 2011-10-31 21:57:44 UTC
The idea of using the "Like" button to determine whether a thread/idea is good or bad is not a good design choice.

I get it, you want the forums to be more like Facebook, that's fine. However for the sake of actually being able to tally up the total number of supports vs. dissents there really should be a Support and Opposed button available for us.

And no, not just a Support button, because that doesn't give a complete picture either. Both.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#12 - 2011-10-31 22:11:55 UTC
I support for both buttons, for a more usable and informative Assembly Hall.
Zleon Leigh
#13 - 2012-01-29 04:37:13 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:


Only if we get a "Not Supported" button as well.


-1 unless this

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Haidamaky
UA Fleets
#14 - 2012-02-01 14:15:29 UTC
I haven't found "Supported" button, so I just post here to see it again.
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#15 - 2012-02-02 19:30:32 UTC
I want the NOT button too

How do I support this? Where's the button...
Aineko Macx
#16 - 2012-02-03 09:43:33 UTC
I have been calling for improvements to Ass. Hall since forever. Then CCP made the new forums, ignored all improvement suggestions and removed the little dedicated functionality there was instead.

Obviously supported.

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