EVE General Discussion

Because it has no relationship to how things really work. You can always make the most money in areas where there is the most stability. And when you think about it that makes sense. here is what doesn't.

The price of stability is a higher "price of admission". I could mine gold in the Congo or in Alaska. In the Congo there are less barriers to entry and lower overall costs, but significantly more risk. It is the first part that is missing in EvE hi sec, barriers to entry and higher overall costs.

Nothing is free in a "civilized" nation or space. Where are the mining permits and the subsequent outlaws that mine without a permit? Where are the taxes, beyond corporate taxes, for living in protected space? Docking permits, trade license, etc.

Beyond making the hi sec experience realistic it could add flavor to the game. Loose practices in some factions including corrupt officials or tight laws down to a specific permit required for each type of ore. All available at a local space station.

Risk versus reward is bozo. Lo sec is about freedom, hi sec is about sacrificing those freedoms for protection.

imagine a space-themed amusement park and you have several rides

that's what eve is basically going towards

With all that stability how do massive NPC pirate fleets just slip in by the tens of thousands.

You would think stability would limit them to Frigates and Cruisers in small fleets.

I enjoy Highsec as well as nullsec. I'm also a dirty annoying roleplayer.

I like the idea of a higher cost of living in highsec. I don't think it should be anything significant... maybe 100-1000 ISK per station docking or stargate jumping request depending on the system's security status, increasing even more if you have a lower security status. That may not seem like much, but for the active player it would quickly add up, without being an undue burden for those not doing much.

Mining permits are also a great idea, but I'm unsure how you imagine them working mechanically.

I'm sure this makes sense to you....

So you expect new players, who have no idea how the game really works, to organize and protect themselves against players with much greater SP, much deeper pockets, and greater numbers and organization?

Did you even stop to consider anything, other than your own need to grief noobs?

Lame aversion going after the sarcasm and not the meat little bee.

Players work to make Null stable. They build that Empire and make it safe. They are the Concord. That is why they deserve much better rewards.

Bro, you missed April Fools by an hour with this thread.

Unless of course you knew it wasn't april 1st anymore, in which case, 'posting in a troll thread'. Because there isn't a chance in hell you're serious.

Good god I hope not, otherwise I'll be forced to join forces with "belligerent undesirables" and help them burn it to the ground, which on second thoughts is actually a bloody good idea, not to mention fun.


It's not about griefing noobs, and it never was. It's about empowering players to improve both themselves and the game in general. I can think of plenty of so called "long term" players in highsec who also have absolutely no idea about how the game really works.

NPC corps are the major cause of ignorance about game mechanics, they are, in the main, populated by newbies who don't know any better and people who, having playing for substantial time periods, should know better, but don't. If you want absolute safety, then you should pay for it, and NPC corps are as near to absolute safety as you can get in Eve.

I'm all for NPC corps as an idea, but they should not be the all encompassing shelter that they are at the moment. They should be training corporations with a time limited membership, I'd gladly support any initiative to encourage people to leave them after playing for 6 months, for example <6 months 10% tax, >6 months 30% tax (including market sales). I'd also support any initiative or incentive that sees more experienced players pass on their knowledge as mentors or guest instructors to NPC corps.

The thread may well be a troll, but it does bring up some good points.

what's new? he never makes sense, it's not in his nature to do so.

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