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Instead of whining to CCP about behavior they already endorsed, perhaps you could consider killing them all?

If you brought this up in the crime and punishment forums, and named the player and the systems they were in, there might be players interested in exhumer loot.

we are not talking about 80 single accounts. im talking about 1 player having the ability to have as many accounts as he want, all working at the same time. 1 player could topple a market faster, than just 5 players mining together. prices would become too imbalanced, and other players would gain less out of it by doing so. in this case, ice mining. 1 player lowers the prices of ice dramatically, tho this is perfect for those who buy ice, but those who sell it are forced to move to another region to gain anything from it.

also, this could help isk farmers gain their isk faster, and then sell it to people, for real life money sooner. as 1 player could make as many accounts as he wants, then devide the isk sold to other accounts, who then sell it off. this tactic used by isk sellers is legal, as only the account selling the isk directly, is getting banned.

You were talking about 80 accounts. But I see you didn't answer the questions, merely started down the strawman route.

As you avoided answering, I'll take it you agree there is no difference. OK moving on then.

CCP has stated this app is allowed. It is not macro because a human must be at the keyboard to send commands, even tho those commands are repeated across more then one account. ISBOXER is legit non macro app that works for lots of games and across those other games they are also allowed and not considered macros, cheats, or hacks.

Your problem is that ISK made could potentially be sold for real world money??? Any source of ISK making that goes beyond the characters immediate need could inevitably sold for real world money. So... lets remove incursions, level 5 mission running, all 0.0 gravimetric plexes, oh and wormholes too. That way no one can have any amounts of ISK, with any amounts of accounts, with ISBOXER or manually, that could potentially be sold.

Nah that wouldn't fly would it????

If market forces are what you are worried about then... how can you expect 80 pilots doing any singe task at a time giving them the ability to tip the EVE market on their own? Even if they do have some small effect then that means others who are also farming ice will move to mining other things in other systems or regions and the market will balance out.

Just because someone has 80 accounts (BTW screenshot or your just BSing) this must mean they are selling real ISK? Those alts probably do PI too and fuel towers somewhere in deep 0.0. Any extra ISK made might end up going to pay for plexes for those 80 accounts, witch by the way would require 44B ISK a Month. In a way, they already sell ISK.... If they use PLEX to manage their account they are essentially turning 44B ISK a month in to $1,196USD and using that to pay their accounts already. That is the type of ISK selling CCP likes and makes a profit off of.

If you see it as such a problem then do something about it, rather then just posting on a forum. Go war dec them or gank them. Several hundred losses over a month then it would become more of a hassle then it is worth to them and they will sell off the toons and stop. Take the path that creates content for other pilots, just like other pilots have done in the past rather then bitching about it on the forums.

/rant

The effective income remains the same. That person with 80 accounts has to PLEX those 80 accounts, which takes the same amount of time as a player with 1 account.

Did you miss the other questions?

If we apply your line of approach, we get the following answers to 2 and 3.

2. 80 x more cost per month.

3. They stop mining.

You could have simply answered the question, instead of attempting to make a point. But the trouble with that point, was that you avoided the question that made it pointless. I. E. number 2.

+1



As inefficient and/or tedious as 1 client?

Botter =/= human multiboxing

Human input amount for 80 accounts:
Banned bot:
0 human input, 80 bots
ISBoxer:
1 human input, 79 bots.
Multiboxing:
80 human input, 0 bots.

Ok.. though this has likely been said before.

Macro mining and the use of 'multiboxing' tools are two very separate things.
One is a pure automation tool. the other allows one player to control multiple accounts.

The difference is that one allows a person to log in, turn their miner on, then go out / to sleep / watch a movie etc, while the other requires that the person still put in the commands manually, though they can do so on multiple accounts simultaneously.

botting and macro mining is banned because it is an automation tool.
Multiboxing is not.
it's a very fine line between the two, granted, but it is a distinction that has to be made.

Having come from WoW where multiboxing by 40+ isn't as uncommon anymore, to see it has followed into EvE is sad for players. I was hoping with a macro ban multibox software like that wasn't allowed. :(

Isbox and other macro (yes they are macro programs) multibox software are a bane to MMOs as they allow so many players to act in unison with 1 click. No one cares if it's 2 or 3 accounts, it's the 40+ variety that is the problem. I don't have a problem with these programs for a few at a time, it's after seeing them pollute MMOs with their presence, to know 40+ multiboxers are alive and well that is a concern to me. Imagine them running PvP fleets - 1 player behind the wheel. Talking about game imbalance. In WoW such multiboxers literally own PvP battlegrounds, no chance to win. Put them in a FW or null fleet, it's the same results (would take a blob to defeat them because of the concentrated firepower 1 click can offer...a huge blob). Couple players like that could own territory even.

+1 support from multiple MMO experience dealing with that tomfoolery.

Its called the power of [insert number here] as advertised by CCP.

Working as intended.