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I have personally rented from him 2 different times, both times where nothing short of outstanding.

The BPO"S are very profitable, he never took anything of mine, and even did a few other deals with him to benifit both of us.

If he took your stuff, you screwed up, not him. Your 22bil in stuff is petty change to what he does on a daily basis.

There is this beautiful website called eve gate. It lets you send mails while out of game. There are also these applications for your phone which let you read mails and get notifications. You keep looking at this as a theft, so lets look at what happened.

You went awal and failed to do your job in EvE, this was to fuel the POS, many alliances if your POS gives notifications will just pull it, it is a common practice from those who have run POSs because the notification spam is a *****. Your contract stated you must fuel the POS, you did not do this. Because of this everything at the tower was pulled back into the corp.

According to the agreement you signed there is nothing about what happens when you breach the contract. The simple fact is according to the contract you signed if you breach the contract you lose what you were given access to, which the easiest way to do in EvE is remove you from the corp.

The simple fact here is you screw up, and while yes evil could have been nice and given you back the 22B, there is nothing in the contract which says he will, there is nothing which says what will happen if you break the contract. The services he provided, aka the alt corp, were removed and the assets left on the corp were seized.

While yes it isn't how I would have handled the situation, and the contract he posted for renting isn't what I would have posted. He was not in breach of the contract by doing what he did and it was valid.

This splits into the legal and moral aspect.

In the legal sense evil has not done anything wrong. The contract stipulated that you keep the POS fuelled. The moment it ran out of fuel. Your contract was void and he was well within his rights to eject you and your things from the POS and Corp.

As for your things that where in someone else's POS. In my opinion he should have returned them to you but he is not required to do so and nor has he broken your agreement by keeping them.

I still think evil could have handled this better and that future contracts should clearly stipulate that in case the contract does go void then the content of the POS and station befall the renter.


Outside of all of this. Evil should also be compensated for the remainder of the contract date since he will lose isk in the time it takes to find a new client. I could understand if he took this loss out of your belongings found at the POS and returned the rest to you.

Evil have acted within his rights but he did show weakness of character by taking the clients belongings with the only motivation "that he could"


It's like if a super cap manufacture sells a Nyx to a client. Then right after isk has changed hands they call in a fleet to destroy the nyx. Yes they did everything in accordance with the agreed to contract but their conduct could still be called into question.

If his possessions were returned, less liquidated damages, then this would be seen as a contract dispute.

Since no possessions were returned at all, this appears to be 100% scam.

No alts bro. This is the only account I post with

I don't see this as a scam but I do see that it's bad for business. I think if you're going to terminate an arragement like this that you do it above board and with class. Kind of sounds like a dickheaded move was made. But who knows, maybe the victim is a douche and deserved it.