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1.75 B loan request @ 3% per annum

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Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-01 07:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Pitrolo Orti
Hello!

I am currently looking to invest in a set of ships I believe will raise in prices.

I have no collateral to offer at this time as my assets are all either in production or about to be.

I would prefer to deal with a single investor for simplicity.

I would hope to repay earlier than a year but it will depend on my unreliable playing schedule so I can make no promises.

Thank you for your time!

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#2 - 2013-04-01 09:33:52 UTC
would like pledge 20b

@JerryTPepridge

Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
#3 - 2013-04-01 10:08:33 UTC
Captain-Jean LucPicard
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-04-01 10:25:53 UTC
no rep, no collat and total of 26mil possible profit ? count me in!
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-01 16:45:15 UTC
Any other time of the year, I would not support this, but today is special and to up Jerry T Pepridge, I pledge 100b.
Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-01 16:53:30 UTC
I guess I am being trolled by the people above...

How I can make my offer more attractive?

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.

Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
#7 - 2013-04-01 18:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Caelis Boirelle
A few things.

Firstly, you've essentially just asked for money to go gamble with. Most investors will wonder why they should take all the risk and you take none.

Secondly, no collateral means if you loose or disappear with all the money, an investor has no way of recovering even part of his investment. You also have no investment history or reputation, which means you have nothing to loose or stop you from just keeping the money.

Thirdly, do you really think anyone would want to wait a whole year for just 26 million isk? Even if you were offering 1.5% per month that really isn't a decent ROI for that amount of money. An average ROI for something this size would be 10-15% per month.
Mari Hata
Main Street Crafts and Goods
#8 - 2013-04-01 19:21:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mari Hata
Oh, and please drop the sunglasses and the popped collar. Helps a lot. Trust me.

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Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-05-07 21:34:41 UTC
Bump

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.

De Guillaume
THORN Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#10 - 2013-05-07 22:44:58 UTC
Pitrolo Orti wrote:
Bump


you actually bumped this without trying to take any of the advise given.

Priceless Roll

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Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-05-07 23:01:19 UTC
De Guillaume wrote:
Pitrolo Orti wrote:
Bump


you actually bumped this without trying to take any of the advise given.

Priceless Roll


havent you seen his forum sig? He has discovered even the deepest market-secrets in the meanwhile.
Zahl Theis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-08 03:18:03 UTC
Hey determination takes the cake i suppose.

Let's work [u]together[/u]

Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#13 - 2013-05-08 05:25:30 UTC
why do these scammers keep copying my posts cant they write one of their own?
deeks87 deacon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-05-08 19:45:50 UTC
JUST LOL

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#15 - 2013-05-08 23:41:46 UTC
Why would people accept such a low rate when they can just play my game for a triple or so immediately? I don't get it.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Oracle of Machina
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-09 04:11:23 UTC
So, let's see. You have no reputation, you offer no collateral, you are unreliably around, and you offer very little return on essentially a two billion dollar investment, nor any details on how you plan on making the money work for you. If I was an investor in the real world, I'd tell you to get out and don't come back.

If you want people to take you seriously, have a serious, well-laid out and documented plan and a serious rate of return, as well as some collateral. I'd say something worth at the very least, half of what you are looking for. You need to be organized, and well thought out on how you are going to make this money work. I realize 1.75 billion isn't a large sum of cash for many older players, but it isn't pocket change, either.

Do not expect handouts in EVE, unless someone is feeling very, very generous. Which is about as rare as a blue moon, even among corpmates and friends.

Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-05-16 03:14:00 UTC
OK so following all the suggestions I am willing to raise the interest to 3% per annum.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Regards

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.

Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-05-16 09:04:00 UTC
Even if youre just a bad troll i believe youre actually trying so ill reply ;)

dude 10% per month , thats 120% per year , 117% difference capish :D ?

Opportunities multiply as they are seized.

virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-05-17 13:00:56 UTC
Ummm basically you still don't get it.

You want something - a fair sized chunk of money - from strangers.
We aren't your mom or dad who you can just ask for money and it's our duty to give it to you if you've been good.

There needs to be a reason why an investor would WANT to invest in your scheme.
If no-one WANTS to invest with you then you won't attract an investor.

Things that attract investors:
Good rate of return on their investment.
Low risk.
Easy access - e.g. short term investment.
Risk mitigation - collateral.
Risk mitigation - reputation ( character value ).
Risk mitigation - past investment performance.

You provide none of these desirable factors. You want people to take a risk on you, but you offer practically no reason for them to do so, so they won't..

You should look at successful investment opportunity offers on this forum and compare them with the check list above to understand the factors that produce success.

As a character with no reputation or track record of delivering on investments your best bet is to start out small in the 500 millionish region, and deliver a return of the original investment plus at least 10% over a space of not more than 30 days whilst putting up at least 90% collateral. And maybe even overpay the investors at the end if possible.
Do this a few times to build reputation over time and you will be able to make offers where the terms suit you better more than the investors.
You have to start at the bottom and build up - you can't just go straight to the final goal - not if you want to take people with you.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#20 - 2013-05-17 13:42:35 UTC
Would like to loan 1.75B at 2%/annum to invest in filling OP's pledge.

Can't offer any collateral sorry, I have OCD about people touching my belongings.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

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