EVE New Citizens Q&A

Question: When a majority shareholder runs for CEO doesnt the CEO have ALL ROLES REMOVED during the voting process to prevent acts of grief like oh say, disbanding our alliance which just happened....?

I was CEO previously and when I was prepared to hand over CEO rights to the new person he got impatient and started a vote to run for CEO, during that time I had all roles and titles striped from me. I couldnt edit members, view the wallet, access the POS tower or any of the hangars, or alter the alliance in any way. Now its the other way around, this new CEO has become a threat and last night when he got offline we proposed a vote to name a new CEO and that (should have) striped him of any ability to do harm onto the corp or alliance. Well, 3 hours later he gets on, still has all roles, disbands the alliance, empties the wallet, takes down the POS tower and structures and proceeds to edit members and remove roles/titles.

I opened a petition, GM told me he still held a director role in the corp, how is that possible? I asked for the GM to escalate this to the next level as this GM didnt seem to know what he was talking about. Based on my personal experience and all the research, forum posts, and wikis ive read what happened to us should not have been possible and I want our alliance and my POS tower restored to what it was.

Could this have just been a glitch in the game mechanics? Did we go wrong somewhere?
And no, no other members had access rights to do what he did. Just me and another director who started the vote, and to be sure ive run audits and checked the members in role tab.

That is correct, the second the vote starts is where it all gets frozen. One of the reasons why clown corps who gave out shares to different people had them collected by a single person and got fcked over, it's been used in lots of meta gaming spy nonsense throughout the years.

This alliance was founded by 3 members, myself, another director and the insane CEO. We each had 5000 shares in the exec corp with only 15000 shares total, thats 33.33% each. So if 2 of us agreed we could remove the CEO from power. Well now we are removing him and if what you said is true he should not have been able to do what he did. Was no fault of our own. We went into this together and now he is causing several problems and needs to be removed.

Still waiting on the petition.

Could we maybe get a dev to comment and confirm exactly how the mechanic works?

Already done that but this might be a bug because according to how the shareholder votes work the CEO loses ALL roles during a vote yet he somehow retained all of his.

He cant do that as he is not a majority shareholder. And even if he tried it would have emailed me about the vote. This is some glitch or bug that allowed him to retain all director rights during the vote to remove him as CEO, he just seems to have lost the ability to kick members or change other members roles. He can still edit titles, take from wallet, has full starbase access, hangar access, and obviously access to disband the alliance...

Last time I checked when a shareholder runs for CEO the CEO instantly loses ALL ROLES not just the CEO title. Since a director can do anything a CEO can it makes no sense to just demote the CEO to a director using this method. That allows said butthurt CEO to grief everything which he did.

In fact here is the email I got from a few weeks ago when he ran a CEO vote against me. Note that I lost every single role, no hangar access, no pos access, no wallet, no recruiting tabs, no alliance options. Everything was gone.

CEO roles revoked
From: ******
Sent: 2013.03.17 19:54

****** is running for CEO in Project Freelancer II. Your roles as CEO have been revoked for the duration of the voting period.


How did this not apply to him??

Working as intended. Logs show nothing.


Then 2 weeks later...bug fix.

Update: Still no answer to petition but now we have a new problem. The vote for CEO passed and my friend is now CEO. But as soon as it went through this a hole turned around and proposed a new vote for CEO!!?? WTF! Theres supposed to be a cooldown period between CEO change overs??? All the more reason why I believe hes performing some exploit or glitch. We are unable to kick him as long as he keeps doing this...

I would assume that either this guy found an exploit or that when he became CEO the game never overrode his Director role/title, so when the CEO role diminished due to the vote the director role was uncovered allowing him to still do what he did. I have noticed that if a character had a title before it remains with them once they become CEO, as I have seen this before in my alt corps.

Otherwise you will likely just have to wait for your petition to be answered, but in any case sounds like you befriended a corp thief who has been playing his cards right.

Even if he kept the director role, only a CEO of an Exec. Corp can actually close the alliance.

IMO its not to much to ask for in your case, but it is too much to ask for in the precedent it would set. If they do that for you then they do that for everyone. I dont think CCP wants to be told it 'has" to do anything. Now that its a forum post and everyone knows about it I doubt CCP will give the pos back....let alone anchor it. In the future I would have kept this quiet until you got a response from the petition and then raised hell on the forums afterward with both the facts and a response. Since it is too late for all of that I would sit tight and see what they say. Perhaps more attention isn't what you want right now with everything on your plate. If you need a good price on a tower let me know.