EVE New Citizens Q&A

Spent the past month getting back into the game, and I've been trying to get into pvp and improve - The problem is, I'm just not. And here's what's disheartened me the most:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1444675

9.33%.

I know what your going to say, killboards aren't important, just have fun, etc... But honestly, having such a dreadful ratio is really making me feel like I'm failing massively without any improvement :/ I've been soloing, with the odd fleet, but still have the bullshit that is my 9.33% looming over me.

Someone tell me to stop focusing on it so much -.-

Welcome back to Eve and stop focusing on Kill Board stats so much.


DMC

If it helps any, your kill board indicates you fight in a lot of small gangs, and your solo deaths don't seem to be coming from ships you should 'murder' every time.

All in all, looks like a normal solo small gang kill board for someone who takes challenges.

High efficiency normally just indicates how well you can km whore.

Your record of deaths to kills seems to be 1 kill for every few losses.

I think that is actually a pretty normal honest result for solo and small gang pvp when you don't run away from anything that stands a fighting chance.

This normally improves when a pilot stops going "yay!! Trap!", or "I wonder if I can kill that?".
As to if that's what you want to change, it's up to you.

Disclaimer: I suck at pvp too...... So take any advice from me with a grain of salt :p

I attacked a bait POS with one (even if it wasn't a trap, it was a really stupid thing to do, and I've learned that lesson well).

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10802376

Was worth 2.5 billion at the time. I immediately bought another. I currently have 2. [Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.]

Then there was the Navy Raven I lost when I got disconnected in a mission... stuff happens.

Accept your losses with a laugh, and try to learn from them. Having fun is all that matters.

Here's my thoughts on the subject:


- Vimsu's post was the most important one here, let me elaborate. The trick to winning is not learning how to kill but it's learning how not to BE killed, I know that sounds real Zen like but it's true. Once you learn how to avoid stuff you can't handle and stop making the wrong decisions you stop dying so much and all of a sudden your KB stats (as if they matter) get better. Also, if you learn to survive more you end up with more kills because of it.

What you need to learn is that PVP is about strategy and tactics and not so much about dps and EHP numbers, it's very much rock paper scissors. If you KNOW what the other ship can and can't do and you KNOW what your ship can and can't do then you KNOW which strategy will lead to your downfall and which will lead to victory. You need to start fitting towards a specific realistic scenario & strategy rather than just checking the dps numbers. It also means getting situational awareness and getting efficient at taking in all the info, intel overview etc and then turn that into taking the right decisions. You need to learn the basics.

Here's a good example, you lost a Maulus with a scram, plated and with 2 range damps. That fit makes no sense as it seems to be some sort of tackler (you're in a fleet) but you're also short range so the range damps don't really do a whole lot and in fact all they really do it make yourself the only target for the one you tackled because everything else will be outside his range. Now technically you could zoom around just outside his new locking range but still have him scrammed... in theory. In reality that's very difficult to make happen especially as a newbie, it's just not a realistic strategy especially not in fleets. If you lose a ship in fleets then it's not your fault as long as you followed the FC's calls and kept to fleet fittings. Solo or when with 1-2 others it's all up to you and you need to learn strategy.

- You're used as cannon fodder, but don't necessarily see that as a negative thing because it's a good way to get yourself exposed to the sensory overload that is PVP. The strategy is to bombard high SP, high value targets with cheap **** and just drown them in targets while tickling them to death. It's a valid strategy but for that to work you need numbers, good FCing and intel. Either (or all, don't know how good your FC's are) may be the problem. Thing is that you losing cheap stuff is pretty much expected and is fine as long as you don't start losing silly faction crap. Right now you're exchanging some isk for experience, see it as a simple transaction like that and be ok with it. It'll get better over time.

- you're mostly fighting in PVP hotspots where "everyone" has gang links and "everyone" is waiting for some clown(s) to fall for their trap. OMS (Old Man Star) etc isn't really PVP; it's being gang linked to fck with RR, neutral alt support and cloakies nearby clubbing baby seal idiots who thought they'd get a "good fight". In short you'll "never" win fights from the locals but don't worry about that because they're more carebear than most lvl 4 mission runners, hiding behind their gang links and stuff.



in short; you're new so you're going to die a lot, it's ok as long as you had a plan and you learn from every loss. Learn strategies, fittings and tactics. Learn about the most obvious fits for all ships you're possibly going to encounter so you know how they work and how to kill them.The worst thing you can do is not thinking before you're acting, not learning from every encounter. To get better you need preparation, learn how to use EFT properly and learn strategy rather than just rushing headfirst into targets. if you're cable of not being an idiot it'll get better in time.

Yeah man I got podded today because I didn't know the new hi-sec engagement rules. Just plus 3's sure but that's tough on us newer players.

Lesson learned.

Anyways look at it like this; you have some decent kills already and you're just in a t-1 fit 500k frig.

Could be a lot worse.

all things considered, i would actually agree.

Go to high-sec and look for something blingy and expensive. Gank it with fellow brave newbies and your efficiency is fixed.

Here's a hint, join RvB.

^^^

If KB efficiency is what you want, join RvB, fly something cheap, tanky, and low on the opposing FCs priority list, like a Punisher. Join lots of fleets and whore every killmail. You'll be isk positive in no time.