EVE General Discussion

Lets remove one of the major barriers to capital ships. What could possibly go wrong.

The only determining factor is ISK - everyone can fly everything and fit anything on their ships. You can give capitals to players that have never played EVE. Zerg alliances focus on getting Trial people to be cannon fodder. Players focus on gaining ISK through game means or just buying it.

Yes because we want the power blocs with all the money/moneypooling capabilities to be able to field full capital and titan fleets. Which they now can because every single member is able to build capital components, go out and mine in exhumers and reship into FotM fleet doctrine with all the goodies at every step. I believe that the old saying "time is money" comes into play

In your system it the people with money, not time that rule. You want something even more "dumbed down" than world of warcraft which at least has the sense of class locking and profession locking people.

As a new player I think it would be a great idea to eliminate the skills altogether. It would allow you to get right into the action as soon as you can earn the ISK rather than having to wait for some arbitrary skill timer to click done. Way I see it, if you are clever enough to get the ISK to fly a tripped out faction battleship in a month, then more power to you. Just don't come crying when someone with more player skill blasts it out from under you.

No.

The history and community traditions of this game are all rooted in the "world" that the current skillpoint system has created.

IF the "OMGresetBUTAN" was ever pushed, then sure, you might consider such a concept at the outset -- but not 10 years in.

Thats a shame because I think you hit the barrier to entry for this game right on the head. The skill system keeps new players locked out of some content for a certain period of time no matter how ambitious they are or how hard they work at it. So a lot of your more enthusiastic and active new players, the ones that would probably add a lot to the community, just quit for a different game rather than pay to wait for the content they want to play.

Direct time over XP Grind?

The only game I played with an XP grind was BSGO which also oddly enough had a Skill System, you had to grind the SP then train the Skill. I don't mind time skills, it is brutal though when I was a beginner with no support skills.

BSGO, terrible game but for different reasons... so very many reasons.


It is very frustrating, once you have your support skills at IV-V it gets better though. You can start training all different ship types like Battlecruisers. But me I'm the type of player who would never be happy in a big slow Capital Ship.

The uphill climb is annoying but I hope you stick with it.

Ever go on holiday, where you had more fun going to a place than actually having fun at that place. Yea your "hypothetial" just removes that anoying "fun" part.

Prefer that EvE remains a skill based game and the skills are difficult to level. Not due to longevity sake but because it is difficult to play and waiting nearly a month for one level to finish. When it is, you passed the patience test.

I left WoW after learning that Blacksmithing became EZMode. A lot of things I tolerated in that game, but that was the final straw. I've played MuDs where it took 3 years to master a single tradeskill, and when you did you were a rare find and got business due to it. With everyone but their dead uncle can be a mastercrafter, it's home for the worst in gaming -- exploiting the markets with bots. It took me a while to level my crafting toons (not buying bot mats) but when I got there I was proud.

I due though wish the other 2 slots on our account can be leveled, so we can level multiple role toons. And there's some benefit for leveling the toon for so long (like research points are done, but for queuing the longest skills). Points that can used for buying stuff or using as some bonus (something like BF24F uses, disposable duration based shields/modules and what not).

I do like this, but the only reason I would disagree with you is because I like to go multiple routes instead of focusing on one path.

I do like the time stuff and the challenge, but once you change paths and keep facing it, it becomes kind of silly.

But if I was just to go one route, as well as the route being satisfying enough as you paint it to be, I wouldn't mind the way things are in this game.

As long as you shoot straight and stay narrow, I would say the SP system works well.