Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Local is a separate issue, it's not a counter, neither a limit to cloaking.
If you want to remove local, then extend directional scanner to 256au.
Because local serving you, my dear rabid PvP'er, to find targets, as well as your targets to find you. It creating an equal gameplay field for both of you. If you don't like play fair, however, ...

You don't need to shoot. You don't need to dock, you don't need to use a gate. You don't need to launch probes and/or drones, you don't need to activate any modules. All you need to do is sit there cloaked, watch the scene and provide a warp spot or cyno when it's time. And before that, you're invulnerable, save exploits.

I can live with it.

In small gang fights, we almost always have someone flying a cloaked probing ship. The goal being to provide surprise warp ins to people kiting/sniping the gang. I'll be the first to admit that using this tactic is fun, but it always feels a bit underhanded.

So I wonder, what would happen if you were only allowed to warp to uncloaked fleet members?

Warp-ins would still be doable but you'd need have your prober uncloak first (giving your target a second's notice to react), or alternatively chase them down with a 'cepter.

My opinion is that this would make for slightly more interesting game play. Sniping would be, at least a little bit, more viable. Thematically it makes some sense as well, only being able to warp to something that is broadcasting it's location.

The downside is that cloaked probers have a slightly reduced role. But in my opinion, they are already useful in so many other situations that this is acceptable.

On the technical side, it's not clear how easy it would be to code in that check to the warp-to button, but one imagines it's not imposible.

So what do you think? Pointless? Great? Game breaking?

By no coincidence, that's all that is needed.

Oh, and this is not a complain, if you didn't got it.

except that the dscan still works on a cloaked ship, probes still work after a ship is cloaked. local still works after a ship is cloaked.

why should these things still be true?

Is not the ship cutting down all the signals it sends and receives?

also there is lore concerning the local chat, its not supernatural unless you live in wh space and have hacked the client.

Why every cloak thread gets derailed into a nerf local thread is kind of silly considering that it is always the same two or three people that do it.

cut off cloaked ships ability's to use directional and probes while cloaked, they aren't supposed to be sending signals right?
Id be totally ok with them then being removed from local as long as they themselves get cut off from local.

cut off cloaked ships ability's to use directional and probes while cloaked, they aren't supposed to be sending signals right?
Id be totally ok with them then being removed from local as long as they themselves get cut off from local.