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A quick drone operating Question.
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Jarv Tedis
Drunken Norsemen
#1 - 2013-03-29 18:23:40 UTC
I have drone operation 5 and room for 8 drones in my drone bay, but i get "not enough bandwith" when i launch drones.

I can only use 3 drones at the same time now. This is in a "magnate" i use for exploring.

What am i doing wrong?
Midnight Like
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-29 18:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Midnight Like
You can keep 8 drones on your ship, but your ship can control only 3 drone.
Look in ship attributes, and you see bandwith there.
Small drone use 5mb, medium 10mb, large and sentry 25mb.

So, if your ship have 15bm of bandwith you can use 3 small drones or 1medium+1small
GL
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2013-03-29 18:32:41 UTC
Drone bandwidth is an attribute ships have entirely separate from drone bay size. It is consumed by having drones active in space.

Light drones use 5 bandwidth. Medium drones use 10. Heavy drones use 25.

A lot of ships have more drone bay space than bandwidth. So, while you cannot launch all the drones you carry at once, you can carry spares or alternate drones.
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#4 - 2013-03-29 18:32:49 UTC
In a Sub Capital you are only able to launch 5 Drones at maximum. This is however, further limited, by not having enough Drone Bandwidth. Every ship that has a Drone Bay, has a fixed amount of it. In the Magnates case 15 Mbit

Every Drone that you launch takes up a fixed amount of Bandwidth. In the case of Light Scout Drones this is 5 Mbit per Drone.

Using this, you find that no matter your Drones Skill Level, the ship can only handle 3 Drones at a time, with the rest that remains in the Drone Bay as "spares".
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2013-03-30 04:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
The above posters are correct, Drone Bandwidth limits the size and number of drones you can have active. The drone bay size is like your cargo bay size, which limits how much ammo a ship can carry.

Chances are that if you are using drones in a Magnate, which is a probing bonused ship, you are probably not using the ship as intended. You really should use a second ship for combat.

The only ships that do a half-decent job of probing and combat are tech 3, but they are both expensive, and skill intensive. As well, being able to do two things half-decent mean compromises have to be made (typically to combat and defensive capabilities).
Jarv Tedis
Drunken Norsemen
#6 - 2013-04-02 07:56:47 UTC
Thanks guys, sorry i didnt respond earlier but been away over the weekend;)
I used the magnate to test out Exploring some and was just surprised i couldnt use all in combat.
Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#7 - 2013-04-02 08:27:20 UTC
Jarv Tedis wrote:
Thanks guys, sorry i didnt respond earlier but been away over the weekend;)
I used the magnate to test out Exploring some and was just surprised i couldnt use all in combat.



Exploring vessels are just that: exploring :)

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread
Oraac Ensor
#8 - 2013-04-02 17:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The above posters are correct, Drone Bandwidth limits the size and number of drones you can have active. The drone bay size is like your cargo bay size, which limits how much ammo a ship can carry.

Chances are that if you are using drones in a Magnate, which is a probing bonused ship, you are probably not using the ship as intended. You really should use a second ship for combat.

The only ships that do a half-decent job of probing and combat are tech 3, but they are both expensive, and skill intensive. As well, being able to do two things half-decent mean compromises have to be made (typically to combat and defensive capabilities).

That's a bit misleading for newbies.

The scan-bonused T1 frigates are easily capable of running a lot of hisec exploration sites.

The drone bays on Imicus and Magnate are 40 m3, those on the Heron and Probe are 35 m3. What exactly would all those drones be intended for if not for combat?

Edit:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
These ships are currently used for Cyno lighting more than anything else, and we want to build their role as frigates for exploring deep space (especially to provide more interesting exploration gameplay for new players). We hope to see them being used for solo highsec exploration for newer players, or to support the combat ships in an exploration group in wormholes or lawless space. They're getting bonuses to hacking, archeology and salvaging so you can use them to both probe and run mini-profession sites.
Their combat ability has also been directed at drones instead of weak weapon bonuses. We've designed them to be able to kill the rats in highsec mini-profession sites, although a combat frig will clear them faster. The ship isn't directly intended for a pvp role, so the ehp remains quite low and we skewed the fittings towards CPU and away from PG. Best way to kill the rats with this ship is fit a light active tank, drop drones and kite.

We wanted these ships to feel like an expedition vessel for newer players, something that can run sites independently and with enough cargo, no ammo use and extra dronespace to take long journeys away from their home base (even if they stay in highsec).
Doctor Ape MD
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-04-02 17:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Ape MD
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The above posters are correct, Drone Bandwidth limits the size and number of drones you can have active. The drone bay size is like your cargo bay size, which limits how much ammo a ship can carry.

Chances are that if you are using drones in a Magnate, which is a probing bonused ship, you are probably not using the ship as intended. You really should use a second ship for combat.

The only ships that do a half-decent job of probing and combat are tech 3, but they are both expensive, and skill intensive. As well, being able to do two things half-decent mean compromises have to be made (typically to combat and defensive capabilities).

That's a bit misleading for newbies.

The scan-bonused T1 frigates are easily capable of running a lot of hisec exploration sites.

The drone bays on Imicus and Magnate are 40 m3, those on the Heron and Probe are 35 m3. What exactly would all those drones be intended for if not for combat?


With a few days of drone skills the Magnate can easily clear all Mag and Radar sites in Highsec, leaving all of the other slots for codebreakers, analyzers, salvagers, etc. Just avoid the tougher complexes and you'll be fine.
Merouk Baas
#10 - 2013-04-02 17:39:56 UTC
Look at it this way:

Magnate is a T1 frigate designed for exploration; it can take out some enemies if you have good drone skills (so that the 3 drones it launches do twice the damage), but its main thing is HUGE bonuses to probes, compared to other frigates.

The Magnate is limited in combat in order to entice you to progress up the chain to the T2 exploration ships (Anathema) or the T3 cruiser (Legion) with exploration subsystems, which offer roughly the same bonus to probes, but much better combat capabilities.

This is typically how EVE does "progression." If your ship is limited, you train up for a better (more expensive) ship, or find a way to switch ships to suit your needs. Probe with the Magnate, then jump into a combat cruiser to go take out the site.

You will see similar limitations to combat prowess with the electronic warfare ships; a Blackbird cruiser is designed to jam your targeting, and it does that quite well, but if you manage to resist the jamming and land a few shots, you're going to cut into it like cheese.