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EvE Online: Odyssey!!!

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#521 - 2013-03-28 20:18:20 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
[quote=Dave Stark][quote=Quintessen]

EVE may be life to you. It is a casual hobby, a stress free release from the BS of real life, to me.


You sound very stressed out though in all your responses in this topic.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#522 - 2013-03-28 20:20:23 UTC
Quintessen wrote:
Since every nullsec mineral is worth more in terms of isk/m3, how is it that it's less profitable? And would it matter that it's more profitable than hi sec mining if it's still less profitable than all the other things you can do in null that are so much more profitable? Would it really need to be a 100M/hour kind of thing to viable?



In high sec, you can easily move to the next solar system over to find more rocks. In null, you have to mine a bunch of crud, like Gnesis and Spoud, that is WAY less ISK an hour, to get your cluster to respawn.

Then there is refine, where you can only get 100% with an upgraded outpost with big monthly rent.

Then there is the lack of trade hubs, and difficulty getting the minds converted to ISK.

Then there are the large number of hours you spend sitting in POS shield or outpost because there is a neut in system, or in the area. One AFK cloaky, and most null miners don't even bother to log in for weeks at a time (except maybe to put a skill in the queue).
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#523 - 2013-03-28 20:22:18 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
[quote=Dave Stark][quote=Quintessen]

EVE may be life to you. It is a casual hobby, a stress free release from the BS of real life, to me.


You sound very stressed out though in all your responses in this topic.



Because I'm posting from work while listening in on yet another scrum call. 2 weeks to code freeze and two months of dev work still to get done.

This is the stress that I play EVE ti escape from.
Quintessen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#524 - 2013-03-28 20:41:49 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
because a minerals isk/m3 is irrelevant. however i will assume you mean ore, because that is relevant


Sorry, yeah. Let's just say it's been a long week.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#525 - 2013-03-28 21:20:13 UTC
Quintessen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
because a minerals isk/m3 is irrelevant. however i will assume you mean ore, because that is relevant


Sorry, yeah. Let's just say it's been a long week.


Go mine some spoud, then talk about how much isk/m3 all those null rocks pay.
Dave stark
#526 - 2013-03-28 21:21:08 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Quintessen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
because a minerals isk/m3 is irrelevant. however i will assume you mean ore, because that is relevant


Sorry, yeah. Let's just say it's been a long week.


Go mine some spoud, then talk about how much isk/m3 all those null rocks pay.


yeah, i already covered that while you were typing out yet another whine post.
Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#527 - 2013-03-28 21:37:09 UTC
Kind of funny how I was wondering how in depth Eve is on a galactic level. And bam! Out comes Odyssey.

Murphy's Technology Law - If your not thoroughly confused. Then you were not thoroughly informed.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#528 - 2013-03-28 21:38:46 UTC
I predict that there will be a wormhole to Sol, and we'll find out that Earth was destroyed by an Icelandic volcano, but we can mine the dead planet endlessly for Hákarl.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Aidan Patrick
Aldebaran Foundation
#529 - 2013-03-29 00:11:11 UTC
Quintessen wrote:
Since every nullsec mineral is worth more in terms of isk/m3, how is it that it's less profitable?


I only spent an extremely short time in null as an industrialist (and I mean short). However nullsec is more difficult as when I tried to do the move I was only able to find pet alliances with renter corps that would allow industrialists. This gives access to jump bridge networks, but not a huge amount of access to alliance resources (such as freight.).

I could easily fill up an entire corporation hangar with my alt in a single session (prior to discovery Large/X-large ship assembly arrays 18m storage) which made storage pre-freight a massive issue. The fact of the matter a nullsec industrialist has to account for not only the time mining, but also the time and immense risk of hauling. You may get much higher payouts for your load, but the risk of loss is also much higher making it less attractive.



LHA Tarawa wrote:
In preparation for this possibility, I thought it only prudent to cancel the auto-renewal of my 4 subscriptions that were scheduled for May.

A lot of people, including yourself are forgetting that we'll have more details before the expansion drops. CCP has a fantastic history of dissiminating information before the expansion dates. Specifically at Fanfest. This is why the bigger, more awesome expansions happen during the summer.

Remember, the lack of information at this time is meant to create hype. It works, and I have a love-hate relationship with this style. However, this means those that go to fanfest get to be THE FIRST to get the juicy sexy details of the next expansion. We'll get the details.

http://fanfest.eveonline.com/ wrote:
FANFEST 2013
APRIL 25 - 27
HARPA, REYKJAVIK, ICELAND

With that said, you will know whether or not you'll be re-upping before your six month subscription expires. I recommend educating yourself prior to making yourself look less than mature.

LHA Tarawa wrote:
I can't see how urging other high-sec carebears to do the same is a rant or rumor mongering.

I have to say this is by far the most childish thing I've seen in this thread so far. We have absolutely zero details on the specifics of how things will be implemented. We have words being used like redistribution but that does not have the same definition of elimination.

I will admit when they introduced obscenely priced micro-transactions I raged significantly. However, this type of behavior should be reserved for after you find out specifics. An "Everyone cancel their subs!" rampage is entirely uncalled for.

Maybe you should stop reading the EVE forums at work and do your job? I sense that will significantly reduce your stress as you'll actually be accomplishing things.



I'm still heartily excited for Odyssey and can't wait until fanfest begins and we get more details. I'm really, really hoping that exploration can be approached from a non-combat front. I'd love to be able to probe planets and bring back samples of rare minerals/elements etc that are turned in to player or NPC research corportions for use elsewhere. Or simple artifacts that are like commodities for the marketplace that are collectable and unable to be auto-linked or pulled from API that have snippets of EVE lore in their descriptions.

It would be a fantastic feeling to locate a planet and survey it only to find an artifact that suggested a Terran outpost once existed there. No imagine if you found that in w-space? I could imagine the collectibility of those artifacts to long time veterans such as myself....

Exploration that has no impact on gameplay, but complete impact on story. It would even be especially tantalizing if CCP ninja-added systems to the game for people to discover through exploration where they could find new artifacts/technologies to reveal to the EVE universe.

Take the video explaining the discovery of the implants used by dust bunnies. Explorers could find similar technologies intact and either use that intact piece or take it home and reverse engineer it for a chance to get a BPC or possibly even a BPO of said item...

Anyways, I digress. It should however be apparent that there is a great many possibilities for exploration and I am curious to see how CCP expands on it.

I just want to play like I'm in Star Trek. Wandering system to system, exploring. Interacting with the locals (players) and just finding new things, both beautiful and informative that don't require me to shoot things.

It wont let me have an empty signature...

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#530 - 2013-03-29 00:38:49 UTC
You know Aidan most of us where trying to ignore him. Now you ruined it.

E: Good post none the less.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Aidan Patrick
Aldebaran Foundation
#531 - 2013-03-29 00:41:52 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
You know Aidan most of us where trying to ignore him. Now you ruined it.

E: Good post none the less.


Thanks! ...and, SORRY! LOL.

Not that I warrant it but my post history should show I don't usually respond to those types of people, but... I couldn't help it.

It wont let me have an empty signature...

Mortimer Blaze
Blaze Industries Inter Galactic
#532 - 2013-03-29 09:48:30 UTC
THANK YOU CCP!

I can't wait to see the shiny new scanning interface. Cool

Oh yeah... and all that other neat stuff too...
Rek Seven
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#533 - 2013-03-29 13:11:51 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:

EVE may be life to you. It is a casual escape from the stresses of my life for me. I don't need a game that is more work than fun, thanks.


Then be prepared to reap less benefits for your unwillingness in get involved with the rest of the community.
Mattalious
Doomheim
#534 - 2013-03-29 14:15:30 UTC
Mortimer Blaze wrote:
THANK YOU CCP!

I can't wait to see the shiny new scanning interface. Cool

Oh yeah... and all that other neat stuff too...



This. This is my hopes and dreams. Not to make it instantly easy, but just to make it less time consuming.


...or just add in a text based game to play with, whilst waiting for the probes to return results.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#535 - 2013-03-29 15:27:00 UTC
Aidan Patrick wrote:
Maybe you should stop reading the EVE forums at work and do your job? I sense that will significantly reduce your stress as you'll actually be accomplishing things.


Ah, you beat me to it.
Solhild
Doomheim
#536 - 2013-03-29 18:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
Looking forward to this patch/expansion - the picture of the POS (?) in the vid looks interesting and I'm thinking we'll be able to visit jove space and dock in their stations too, excellent.


EDIT: this is the pic I mean [the one labelled as Hacking Side Structure - I thought it was a POS!, oops]
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#537 - 2013-03-29 18:11:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I predict that there will be a wormhole to Sol, and we'll find out that Earth was destroyed by an Icelandic volcano, but we can mine the dead planet endlessly for Hákarl.
I hope you know that Sol is the name of our star,
which we also like to call Sun
and that i'm just misreading this as you believing Sol is the name of our system.
Aidan Patrick
Aldebaran Foundation
#538 - 2013-03-30 04:42:39 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I predict that there will be a wormhole to Sol, and we'll find out that Earth was destroyed by an Icelandic volcano, but we can mine the dead planet endlessly for Hákarl.
I hope you know that Sol is the name of our star,
which we also like to call Sun
and that i'm just misreading this as you believing Sol is the name of our system.


Sol is a what you could consider a romanticized name for our star used in fiction. Our star is actually "The Sun" our solar system is "The Solar System". It sounds confusing but as they are our home astronomers essentially agreed it's "The" be because its ours and capitalized because its the name.

I however, will always consider our system and sun to be Sol. Also, typically systems are named after their sun in real life if I'm not mistaken.

It wont let me have an empty signature...

Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#539 - 2013-03-30 06:28:28 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
I can't see how urging other high-sec carebears to do the same is a rant or rumor mongering.


Aidan Patrick wrote:

I have to say this is by far the most childish thing I've seen in this thread so far. We have absolutely zero details on the specifics of how things will be implemented. We have words being used like redistribution but that does not have the same definition of elimination.


I don't know what's so juvenile about it. After giving it some thought, I reacted the same way and cancelled my accounts too so they wouldn't auto-renew in a couple weeks. I'm going to PLEX until Odyssey hits of course, but I'm not getting locked into any committments before I know the details of this resource "redistribution" either. As a high sec industrialist, I would be negatively impacted by virtually every scenario advocated by null players on these forums. If any of those ideas are implemented it could screw up my game. And as EVE is a game of linear progression, all progress made between now and then is potentially wasted time. So I can't agree that the reaction was childish. From my pov, it makes sense. Especially since I did the same thing.

yk
Frying Doom
#540 - 2013-03-30 06:50:29 UTC
Yonis Kador wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
I can't see how urging other high-sec carebears to do the same is a rant or rumor mongering.


Aidan Patrick wrote:

I have to say this is by far the most childish thing I've seen in this thread so far. We have absolutely zero details on the specifics of how things will be implemented. We have words being used like redistribution but that does not have the same definition of elimination.


I don't know what's so juvenile about it. After giving it some thought, I reacted the same way and cancelled my accounts too so they wouldn't auto-renew in a couple weeks. I'm going to PLEX until Odyssey hits of course, but I'm not getting locked into any committments before I know the details of this resource "redistribution" either. As a high sec industrialist, I would be negatively impacted by virtually every scenario advocated by null players on these forums. If any of those ideas are implemented it could screw up my game. And as EVE is a game of linear progression, all progress made between now and then is potentially wasted time. So I can't agree that the reaction was childish. From my pov, it makes sense. Especially since I did the same thing.

yk

I remember you, you were the illogical, whiny little *****, that kept on about how you would have to spend thousands of jumps in a freighter if POSs became slightly cheaper to operate per slot.

I see you are still illogical and still whining.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!