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Collective front launched against the New Order, James315 and miner bumping.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1021 - 2013-03-27 01:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Celly Smunt wrote:
it should be noted that common courtesy to and from folks shouldn't be so easily dismissed as to simply get a "old news" reply just because one person already knows of it when others may not.


Most of us knew he had decided against running last week when he announced it. I understand his point of view on the matter but I don't agree with the reason for his decision.

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Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#1022 - 2013-03-27 16:51:11 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Celly Smunt wrote:
it should be noted that common courtesy to and from folks shouldn't be so easily dismissed as to simply get a "old news" reply just because one person already knows of it when others may not.


Most of us knew he had decided against running last week when he announced it. I understand his point of view on the matter but I don't agree with the reason for his decision.


Fair enough.
I would however point out that "I" and several of my friends who actually try to follow you folk's antics, had no knowledge of his decision not to run and only found out that he was not on the list when we looked at it yesterday.

o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Joceline
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1023 - 2013-03-28 08:56:51 UTC
The new order guys are actually not in it just for the 10m. It's almost like most of them enjoy the RP aspect of this, judging by how most of them talk in local. Usually vary polite, creative in what they say, they are having fun with it. And of course they enjoy all the tears of people who take it all way to seriously.

Defeating someone who is just there for the tears requires only a basic knowledge of how to deal with people. Unfortunately for you miners, most of you seem to lack these basic skills. If you simply don't give them what they want, which is your funny, angry, tearful reactions in local, they would quickly move on to other targets.



Lady Areola Fappington
#1024 - 2013-03-28 09:37:54 UTC
Joceline wrote:
The new order guys are actually not in it just for the 10m. It's almost like most of them enjoy the RP aspect of this, judging by how most of them talk in local. Usually vary polite, creative in what they say, they are having fun with it. And of course they enjoy all the tears of people who take it all way to seriously.

Defeating someone who is just there for the tears requires only a basic knowledge of how to deal with people. Unfortunately for you miners, most of you seem to lack these basic skills. If you simply don't give them what they want, which is your funny, angry, tearful reactions in local, they would quickly move on to other targets.





You "get it" entirely too well. You HAVE to be a spai or something!

It's pretty much the truth though. Don't like us, ignore and avoid us. Use the block feature. Move a few systems away.

Or, play along. Have fun. Stop being "Oh gawd internet spaceships so 4SRS!", and cut loose a little. It's a game, you know...

Just as a warning for those who choose the block idea....as The Saviour said, you can't block antimatter.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1025 - 2013-03-28 14:38:12 UTC
I'm not sure about that. My karate teacher showed me the neat new block that can block anything. It should work on antimatter, too. Just let me get my headband.

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#1026 - 2013-03-28 22:56:59 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
I'm not sure about that. My karate teacher showed me the neat new block that can block anything. It should work on antimatter, too. Just let me get my headband.



BTW, I happen to know of at least 1 endorsement you got and I wish you luck.

of course I'm not allowed to say who within a certain distance from the polling place LOL.. but anyway.. GL Monk

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Rennseslear X
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1027 - 2013-04-08 23:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rennseslear X
math isnt everyones favorite subject. it certainly wasnt mine in school.

denying that 10m will save you 2b in lost ship, when the ONLY reason to mine is pure isk generation...is just mind-boggling.

10m is an investment.

less bots = more profit for miners who actively play the game.

botters and afk miners take money out of the wallet of miners who are smart enough to realize the New Order is right.

if i was a miner, i would pay my 10m, fire up my 2nd acct, head to www.minerbumping.com, learn how to fit a cat, and gank my competition. best of both worlds.

EWE OAR SOFA KING WE TALL DID
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#1028 - 2013-04-09 06:34:18 UTC
Joceline wrote:
The new order guys are actually not in it just for the 10m. It's almost like most of them enjoy the RP aspect of this, judging by how most of them talk in local. Usually vary polite, creative in what they say, they are having fun with it. And of course they enjoy all the tears of people who take it all way to seriously.

Defeating someone who is just there for the tears requires only a basic knowledge of how to deal with people. Unfortunately for you miners, most of you seem to lack these basic skills. If you simply don't give them what they want, which is your funny, angry, tearful reactions in local, they would quickly move on to other targets.





We don't require tears.

We require your submission, and your obedience to our will.

Only then, will you be able to have a part in creating a better high-sec.

If you don't give us what we want, we'll gank you again. Internet Spaceship terror projection is serious business.

What we really want is to be friends with everyone. If you're not blue to us, we'll have to shoot you, "because you were there". But if you join the big blue circle that is high-sec, you will have a chance to be part of the future of EVE.

637 pilots and corporations have purchased their mining permits. High-Sec has a future, but do you?

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
#1029 - 2013-04-09 07:06:52 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Joceline wrote:
The new order guys are actually not in it just for the 10m. It's almost like most of them enjoy the RP aspect of this, judging by how most of them talk in local. Usually vary polite, creative in what they say, they are having fun with it. And of course they enjoy all the tears of people who take it all way to seriously.

Defeating someone who is just there for the tears requires only a basic knowledge of how to deal with people. Unfortunately for you miners, most of you seem to lack these basic skills. If you simply don't give them what they want, which is your funny, angry, tearful reactions in local, they would quickly move on to other targets.





We don't require tears.

We require your submission, and your obedience to our will.

Only then, will you be able to have a part in creating a better high-sec.

If you don't give us what we want, we'll gank you again. Internet Spaceship terror projection is serious business.

What we really want is to be friends with everyone. If you're not blue to us, we'll have to shoot you, "because you were there". But if you join the big blue circle that is high-sec, you will have a chance to be part of the future of EVE.

637 pilots and corporations have purchased their mining permits. High-Sec has a future, but do you?
637 that's it? Out of the thousands that play and that's all you got? Pathetic. But I find it funny how this is only in Gallente high sec but nowhere else.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#1030 - 2013-04-09 07:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Emperor Crash Zues wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Joceline wrote:
The new order guys are actually not in it just for the 10m. It's almost like most of them enjoy the RP aspect of this, judging by how most of them talk in local. Usually vary polite, creative in what they say, they are having fun with it. And of course they enjoy all the tears of people who take it all way to seriously.

Defeating someone who is just there for the tears requires only a basic knowledge of how to deal with people. Unfortunately for you miners, most of you seem to lack these basic skills. If you simply don't give them what they want, which is your funny, angry, tearful reactions in local, they would quickly move on to other targets.





We don't require tears.

We require your submission, and your obedience to our will.

Only then, will you be able to have a part in creating a better high-sec.

If you don't give us what we want, we'll gank you again. Internet Spaceship terror projection is serious business.

What we really want is to be friends with everyone. If you're not blue to us, we'll have to shoot you, "because you were there". But if you join the big blue circle that is high-sec, you will have a chance to be part of the future of EVE.

637 pilots and corporations have purchased their mining permits. High-Sec has a future, but do you?
637 that's it? Out of the thousands that play and that's all you got? Pathetic. But I find it funny how this is only in Gallente high sec but nowhere else.


Our database lumps corporations together with the ordinary permit holders. We have bulk rates for corps: only 100 mill for a whole corp.

630+ permits in 7 months means an average of 90 permits sold per month, or 3 per day.

Of course the latter months has seen more activity than the earlier months.

And bear in mind that our target market is only miners.

We're not too worried about raw numbers. Many are called, but few are chosen.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Ghazu
#1031 - 2013-04-09 16:56:26 UTC
both signs and emotes on every post, christ.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Blade Mosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1032 - 2013-04-09 18:39:38 UTC
This all seems very strange to me, maybe because I am no miner.

I've heard people selling mining licenses etc... or you'll be harassed to make mining impossible, or at least unprofitable.

Tho I always believed these we're more or less empty threats. More of a joke then anything else. As we all know, it aint easy popping someone who knows what they doing and don't want to be popped. Appart from the occasional odd ball actually paying, didn't think much would come out from it.

And now I'm let to believe the occasional odd balls are more numerous then I originally thought.

I'm not a big fan of harassing players. But I believe the "victim" of these harassments are more a victim of their own stubborn stupidity and their peers, then the guys harassing them, regardless of its morality.

Looking on the positive side, I'm sure enough have been motivated by this wave of harassment, to wise up and find ways around it. Elevating the overall experience.

Lets hope

Now where did that beer go?!
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#1033 - 2013-04-10 03:20:00 UTC
Galaxy Pig is the greatest!

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
#1034 - 2013-04-10 12:24:40 UTC
When I was in high sec in there so called controlled systems I mined just fine with or without them in system. You just need know who they are and who works for them out of there alliance. Check there standings if its negative they'll stay in station until there target is picked. As for the others just pay attention and you'll be fine. You see someone warp in your belt at a distance, once they leave, hit the road. Easy as that, that and mine in the morning of eastern US time zone they arnt on a lot at that time.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#1035 - 2013-04-10 12:30:01 UTC
Blade Mosh wrote:
I've heard people selling mining licenses etc... or you'll be harassed to make mining impossible, or at least unprofitable.

Tho I always believed these we're more or less empty threats. More of a joke then anything else. As we all know, it aint easy popping someone who knows what they doing and don't want to be popped. Appart from the occasional odd ball actually paying, didn't think much would come out from it.

And now I'm let to believe the occasional odd balls are more numerous then I originally thought.

I'm not a big fan of harassing players. But I believe the "victim" of these harassments are more a victim of their own stubborn stupidity and their peers, then the guys harassing them, regardless of its morality.

Looking on the positive side, I'm sure enough have been motivated by this wave of harassment, to wise up and find ways around it. Elevating the overall experience.

Lets hope


You like the word "harassment", don't you? I refer you to a number of posts made by GMs and devs that catagorically state that what we do isn't harassment.

Galaxy Pig wrote:
Galaxy Pig is the greatest!


Certainly the greatest space farmer. Lol

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Lady Areola Fappington
#1036 - 2013-04-10 12:44:06 UTC
Blade Mosh wrote:
This all seems very strange to me, maybe because I am no miner.

I've heard people selling mining licenses etc... or you'll be harassed to make mining impossible, or at least unprofitable.

Tho I always believed these we're more or less empty threats. More of a joke then anything else. As we all know, it aint easy popping someone who knows what they doing and don't want to be popped. Appart from the occasional odd ball actually paying, didn't think much would come out from it.

And now I'm let to believe the occasional odd balls are more numerous then I originally thought.

I'm not a big fan of harassing players. But I believe the "victim" of these harassments are more a victim of their own stubborn stupidity and their peers, then the guys harassing them, regardless of its morality.

Looking on the positive side, I'm sure enough have been motivated by this wave of harassment, to wise up and find ways around it. Elevating the overall experience.

Lets hope



It gets worse. We TELL our targets exact operations AOs, how to fit to tank, effective ways to avoid ganks, how to get away....the whole nine yards.

They refuse to listen. Gankers are "bad" people, and it'd be "against principal" to do the things we recommend.

So, they get ganked, and bumped, and whinge to CCP to FIXIT. The smart ones are using our shenanigans to get filthy rich, and we love it.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Velicitia
XS Tech
#1037 - 2013-04-10 13:17:07 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:


So, they get ganked, and bumped, and whinge to CCP to FIXIT. The smart ones are using our shenanigans to get filthy rich, and we love it.


I really have to bring more dessies to the area.
Maybe barges too.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Lady Areola Fappington
#1038 - 2013-04-10 15:32:56 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:


So, they get ganked, and bumped, and whinge to CCP to FIXIT. The smart ones are using our shenanigans to get filthy rich, and we love it.


I really have to bring more dessies to the area.
Maybe barges too.



T2 magstabs, T2 blasters, and sebos are also good.
Assorted ice mining or ore mining (depending on system) is also a healthy investment!

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#1039 - 2013-04-10 15:34:22 UTC
Blade Mosh wrote:

I'm not a big fan of harassing players. But I believe the "victim" of these harassments are more a victim of their own stubborn stupidity and their peers, then the guys harassing them, regardless of its morality.

Looking on the positive side, I'm sure enough have been motivated by this wave of harassment, to wise up and find ways around it. Elevating the overall experience.

Lets hope


No actual harassment occurs. We engage miners in competitive gameplay and even invite them to join our team. Some of them choose to get offended by this, and that is their own fault.

Galaxy Pig wrote:

Galaxy Pig is the greatest!


I demand proof.Big smile

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Velicitia
XS Tech
#1040 - 2013-04-10 15:49:43 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:


So, they get ganked, and bumped, and whinge to CCP to FIXIT. The smart ones are using our shenanigans to get filthy rich, and we love it.


I really have to bring more dessies to the area.
Maybe barges too.



T2 magstabs, T2 blasters, and sebos are also good.
Assorted ice mining or ore mining (depending on system) is also a healthy investment!



Cool now I just need to roll an alt that isn't hated by the Caldari ... and WTF on these two random-ass stations.

******* hate standings whoring.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia