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About split weapons and drones...
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#21 - 2013-03-27 20:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Maximus Andendare wrote:
+1 to this. And if it *is* a server-side lag issue, just limit the amount of "true" drone ships capable of handling more than 5. Make Vexor/Myrm/Domi the only ships capable of handling more than 5. Maybe 6, 8, 10 respectively. That'd certainly go a long way in limiting "the swarm" (of server requests). True drone-only dps cruiser, BC, and BS niche would be filled. I mean, every other primary-damage type has a dedicated ship or two--including outliers like neuting and webbing or other more mainstream ewar. And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the other empires catch up and give us a TD, damp, and TP BS (Tech 2 Blops? Faction?).

What I would really like to see is more the Domi get a bonus like 99.9% reduction of powergrid allowing it to use the "Drone Control Unit" currently only useable by carriers and super carriers. Sacrifice your high slots and some CPU to be able to use more drones. Or don't and put guns in those slots.

We have the stealth bombers, a frigate that can fit the battleship size weapon torpedo launcher, why not a battleships that can fit capital size weapons or mods. it is about the same tradeoff. Each race could have one.

You could make each one different like;

The Galente would get the domi or a new similar ship that could fit the Drone Control Unit

One race could have a special Battleship size Logi that could fit a capital shield transfer or remote armor rep

Another could have a ship that can fit a single capital size weapon system

The last could be the other logi or maybe a super e-war

Or you could make them all similar and let each race have a type of BS size mini carrier that has the same Drone Control Unit bonus so all races have a single ship that can wield 10 drones by giving up their high slots and some CPU. The individuality could be maintained by having different bonuses to the drones and restricting drone bay size. For example the caldari might only have the drone bay to hold 10 light drones, but has a drone speed and rate of fire bonus to the drones to increase the applied damage. the Galente could have a huge drone bay as they always do and be able to yield 10 heavy or sentry drones but have the drone bonuses limited to drone hp and signature radius. Whatever it would take to keep them balanced without all being the same.
Ignitious Hellfury
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
#22 - 2013-03-28 17:32:31 UTC
This thread is a waste of time. YOU CANNOT ASK FOR ROLE BONUSES FOR INDIVIDUAL T1 SHIPS. T1 ships are designed to be general purpose, giving them a role bonus goes ENTIRELY against that, and if you do you have to make up some bullshit excuse for why the domi is so special that no other bs can use Drone Control Units. Not going to happen, never should happen.

Further your guys fixation with drones is completely wasted, considering drones are easily the worst weapon system for pvp. They have the longest lag between fire and application of damage if you use normal combat drones, or if you go for sentries you are now weaponless if you have to warp off. Additionally, there is no pilot skill in using drones, which is not an advantage, it's a disadvantage. You can't mitigate transversal to improve the quality of your hits, you just have to hope your drones are landing good hits (they usually aren't, unless they are lights).

Furthermore, it's a stretch to even call drone boats split weapon ships. In most cases they are exclusively bonused to drone damage and have unbonused turret slots, so you're not competing with your highslots or lowslots. In the cases of where their bonuses are split, the ships are FINE. There is no need to make some random drone only spaceship. Actually, go ahead. I think it will actually adequately educate you on why a ship such as that would really actually just suck.
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#23 - 2013-03-28 19:53:08 UTC
Ignitious Hellfury wrote:
This thread is a waste of time. YOU CANNOT ASK FOR ROLE BONUSES FOR INDIVIDUAL T1 SHIPS. T1 ships are designed to be general purpose, giving them a role bonus goes ENTIRELY against that, and if you do you have to make up some bullshit excuse for why the domi is so special that no other bs can use Drone Control Units. Not going to happen, never should happen.

Further your guys fixation with drones is completely wasted, considering drones are easily the worst weapon system for pvp. They have the longest lag between fire and application of damage if you use normal combat drones, or if you go for sentries you are now weaponless if you have to warp off. Additionally, there is no pilot skill in using drones, which is not an advantage, it's a disadvantage. You can't mitigate transversal to improve the quality of your hits, you just have to hope your drones are landing good hits (they usually aren't, unless they are lights).

Furthermore, it's a stretch to even call drone boats split weapon ships. In most cases they are exclusively bonused to drone damage and have unbonused turret slots, so you're not competing with your highslots or lowslots. In the cases of where their bonuses are split, the ships are FINE. There is no need to make some random drone only spaceship. Actually, go ahead. I think it will actually adequately educate you on why a ship such as that would really actually just suck.
It would help if you weren't such an idiot. Split weapon systems are, by the very definition, ships that are bonused for two distinct weapon systems. Last I check the Domi and Vexor had...wait for it...bonuses to hybrid weapons AND drones! Whoa no way! Split weapon system! And what's more there are ALREADY T1 hulls with role bonuses. Man, helps to know what you're talking about before you open your mouth spewing stupidity. Idiot.

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Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#24 - 2013-03-28 22:18:06 UTC
Good news every one!! There is a dev blog you should find, they are going to change the navy cruisers and the navy vexor is going full drone 125Bw and double bonused to drone and with almost no guns to speak of.

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