Missions & Complexes

Angels do primarily Explosive damage, with a secondary Omni-damage component.

Use Fusion ammo against them, as their main weakness is to explosive, with a secondary weakness to Kinetic (if bonussed, like with a Tengu or Drake) and/or slightly to Thermic. Barrage for anything outside 55-65km, depending on your skills and fit.

3-slot shield hardener tank for Angels: 2x Explosive 1x Invulnerability field, or 1 Explo, 2 Invuln (the latter will use a bit more capacitor.)

Drop one of the gyros (the stacking penalty only makes it about 10-12% effective...I misremember the exact number, but it's not adding much, in actual use vs. on-paper) for a Damage Control II--the extra (non-stacking penalised!) resists will make a lot of difference, especially if you screw up a spawn- or aggro-trigger.

(It''s saved my ship at least once: The extra armour- and structure-resists gave me enough time for my drones to eat a scrambling frigate and warp out when I accidentally shot the spawn trigger on "Stop the Thief" too early, and got webbed by like 5 of the little buggers--make no mistake, I would have lost the ship without the DCU!)

I have two SMC rigs on mine, and CDF Cap safeguard, and yes, those do help--the Machi is a speed-tank--and to a small degree, a sig-tank (its' sig-radius is a good 100-150m smaller than a Mael, and it's 2 times faster at least), that plus your gank are your main tanks--the shield-tank is nowhere near strong enough to sit and tank the beating like some other ships, you must keep moving fast ('burner on), and keep range at all times--use that tremendous falloff, even with "heavy" ammunition, IE Fusion, and kill stuff at range before it gets to you (Angels orbit and attack up fairly close), kill webbers first, then any target-painters that are in range...Assuming you can keep speed up, then any non-webbing "little Pointies" can be eaten by your drones at leisure, whilst you 3-4 shot the heavy damage dealers at range.

In the last High-power slot, you should fit a Heavy Nosferatu, and try to always be NOS'ing something that's within the NOS' range, it does make a difference, from what I can see.

That, and learn to watch the "Transversal" column on your overview, and fly manually to minimise this when it's time to kill something...

Hell, just fly it like a giant kiting Assault-frigate, it makes even missions almost fun! Again, be careful of triggers, especially proximity-aggro triggers whilst whipping and kiting all over the room, and keep a close eye on your capacitor--the Machi actually has a good capacitor-buffer, especially with the SMC rigs, but its' recharge-rate is a bit slower than I'd like.

My fit:

"Lyrrashae's Rifter," Angels mission-tanked

HI:

7x Dual 650mm tech II Autocannon (almost as good range and DPS as 800s, much better tracking at speed when you're orbiting things)
1x Nosferatu (the meta 4 one, I can't use large T II versions yet)

MID:

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield-Booster II
2x Explosive Hardener II
1x Invulnerability Field II

LO:

1x Damage Control II
3x Gyrostabiliser II
3x Tracking Enhancer II

RIG:

2x Semiconductor Memory Cell I
1x Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I

DRONES:

5x Hobgiblin II
5x Hammerhead II
(extra Hobs in the spare space, so having one or two shot down doesn't matter too much--those webbing frigates need to die, ASAP!)

So far, I haven't needed anything pimped, but RF gyros, a complex shield booster, and T II rigs are just extra gravy, but I myself prefer to avoid flying suicide-gank bait, especially nowadays.

This is typically bad advice. But I will concede that the OP seems to be very lacking in knowledge when it comes to EVE combat mechanics so a DCUII might not be a bad idea.


Once you learn to fly the Machariel properly drop the DCUII for a gyro and fly the ship properly. Any dps gain is better than unnecessary tank gain. Flying a Machariel with anything less than 4 gyros and 3 tracking enhancers is sacrilege.



Reading this whole post I can see a lot of very bad advice. I would recommend not following almost everything in this post. 650mm autocannons are not necessary, frigs are popped at 30km, and I can hit cruisers inside of 10km with 800mm. The Safeguard rig is a bad choice because your booster should not be running the majority of the time, you will get more benefit from a cap rig, I prefer CCCs, which offer marginally better optimal recharge at the expense of less time to run your burst tank until empty (if you are doing this you are flying it wrong). The three hards in the mids is usually not as good as two hards and an amplifier, especially since the amplifier doesn't chew through capacitor while running. Some missions the damage spread is so great that you do benefit from dropping the amp for a hard, but not always.

The reason why the recharge rate is slower than you would like is you are chewing up your cap with a T2 AB and you have no CCCs. Use a faction AB like the domination one for a large reduction in cap usage and fit three CCC rigs. When I still used an AB I believe mine could be permarun with three CCCs and my cap skills, booster off obviously.

The post seems well-meaned but it has many flaws and doesn't take advantage of the Machariel's strong points, gank and speed with those 650mm autocannons and lack of fourth gyro.

Agree with some of above,Gist is much better then pith XL, pith large can work however. CCCs are definately the prefered rig. The main thing with flying this lovely lovely beast is that you tank with your guns. Use that impressive DPS to reduce the number of ships targeting you. Currently I am fitting:
High-
7x800IIs
E500 proto energy vamp

mid-
Gist C-Type XL
RepFleet 100MN
invulII
2 specifics

Low-
4x RF Gyros
3xTEIIs

Sure there is a stacking penalty on the gyros but there is nothing I want in those slots more than another 60 DPS. And the tank is more than sufficient. Running say rouge slave traders Sansha on the last room (I'll use that one because there is hefty DPS in all the types that should hurt a shield boat) you turn all the tank on for a bit when you come through the gate and by then you've cleared enough targets to go back to pulsing every now and again. But I will again agree that if you are new to the ship DCII might not be a bad idea until you are comfortable flying it.

now we have the question of invul + 2 specifics, or invul, 1 specific and a sba?


I will look into a gist x-L. I currently only have a gist a-type large laying around so whatever I choose (unless its that) is going require purchasing.

Invul is slightly more tank, SBA is slightly more cap. personal preference I suppose I've used both. I like the invul because it provides tank when the booster is off.

For Angels, one exp, one kin, one invul. No need for sba. You kill em so fast, your offense IS your defense. This is my angel setup:


[Machariel, My Mach]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Ballistic Deflection Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Explosion Dampening Field II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Which happens to not be there optimal way to use the ship, ergo, bad advice. More importantly than the damage difference between the 650s and the 800s is the range. The 800s have more range and more damage. The 650s have increased tracking but I'm already hitting almost all NPC cruisers when they are inside of 10km and you aren't going to hit orbitting frigs with those 650s anyway. So you are gaining somewhere where you don't need it, and losing somewhere that is always beneficial.

As to the fourth damage mod v DC dilemma I definitiely on the DC side. I do not fly a Macharial. However, I do have other expensive (and inexpensive) ships and almost every one of them gets a suitcase (pleading guilty to a definite measure of risk aversion ). I suppose some folks don't experience disconnects, or distractions that cause them shoot the trigger mistakenly, etc. When it does happen though you will probably be happy you had your suitcase.

A suitcase is like a condom. If you have experience with someone (very sure we don't engage in dangerous behaovior/can't mess up the trigger) or a developed relationship (ISP AAAAAAA has never let me down before, ever, so far), you have to decide when to trust. And the risk v benefit of the dulled sensation but more safety should be viewed in that light.

So is your ISP perhaps servicing (too many) others such that your safety is not as assured as you would like it? Or, are the kids in the other room, or request/demand for a honey do, or porn on the other screen/window, possibly going to distract you at a key moment? Or is the thrill of completing that mission maybe to be generous 5 minutes faster not equivalent to the thrill of a membrane to membrane orgasm or conversely the time burden of replacing said pixels, such that the analogy breaks down? If so put the suitcase on your ship.

I gave up with the 4th gyro and replaced it with nano. Seems to work better for me but then again, i'm dualboxing two machs so travel time (nano gives 57m/s more) is a big deal.
Apart from that it's pretty similar with all the other fits, 800's, cap transfer, gist X-L booster and so on.

Damsel in Distress comes to mind, I'm sure there are others. Regardless of NOS or Tractor I use them so rarely it matters not what I have equipped there, and in my MWD build neither fit anyway!

Between CCCs and SMCs if you find you need burst tank a lot and your need for sustained tank is less, like with a Machariel where you blow everything up quickly and use a comparatively weak tank, SMCs are usually better as they let the burst tank run longer. I've used both on my Machariel, I started with CCCs and switched to SMCs, the difference is minor but it can affect your playstyle when it comes to using your booster and AB.