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Mangala Solaris for CSM 8

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Ivoto
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#101 - 2013-03-27 05:35:53 UTC
Bump!!
Korgan Nailo
5ER3NITY INC
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#102 - 2013-03-27 07:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Korgan Nailo
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Tied into the above would be pushing for changes to the current isk making standards for the majority of players, namely missions & mining. While these are a necessity, surely they can be improved with regards to the level of attention needed, and to the challenge they offer, making the tedium of isk generation much more interesting for players. And better pve related content with a more active element can only serve to help retain players in my opinion.

Hello Mangala,

You got my vote there. But aside from just voting, I would like to share my thoughts about a portion of the game I really wish existed.

I started playing because a friend of mine invited me to, we both love Sci-Fi, space based games, and EVE seemed like a great choice. It is a great game, it is pretty and addicting. However, there is a problem, after the first 3 months into the game, there isn't much both of us could do together.

Incursions require at least 10 or more people for the smaller sites, while L4s are ok solo, but if done with more than one player, become almost worst than mining.

Then in comes the question: What sort of PvE can one do in EVE with one or two friends?

For the past year, we basically "talk" about EVE, but when it comes to play, we play individually, or he joins RvB fleets here and there. We came to a pathetic situation once when he was running some missions, and so was I, but unless we had a blockade or worlds collide, we just kept doing our missions on our own while chatting through Skype.

Anyway, if you feel like commenting, I'm curious to know what you think about such content, if it should exist at all, or any other ideas you feel like sharing.

Thanks.

KN

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#103 - 2013-03-27 07:33:22 UTC
Korgan Nailo wrote:
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Tied into the above would be pushing for changes to the current isk making standards for the majority of players, namely missions & mining. While these are a necessity, surely they can be improved with regards to the level of attention needed, and to the challenge they offer, making the tedium of isk generation much more interesting for players. And better pve related content with a more active element can only serve to help retain players in my opinion.

Hello Mangala,

You got my vote there. But aside from just voting, I would like to share my thoughts about a portion of the game I really wish existed.

I started playing because a friend of mine invited me to, we both love Sci-Fi, space based games, and EVE seemed like a great choice. It is a great game, it is pretty and addicting. However, there is a problem, after the first 3 months into the game, there isn't much both of us could do together.

Incursions require at least 10 or more people for the smaller sites, while L4s are ok solo, but if done with more than one player, become almost worst than mining.

Then in comes the question: What sort of PvE can one do in EVE with one or two friends?

For the past year, we basically "talk" about EVE, but when it comes to play, we play individually, or he joins RvB fleets here and there. We came to a pathetic situation once when he was running some missions, and so was I, but unless we had a blockade or worlds collide, we just kept doing our missions on our own while chatting through Skype.

Anyway, if you feel like commenting, I'm curious to know what you think about such content, if it should exist at all, or any other ideas you feel like sharing.

Thanks.

KN


Plexes spring to mind immediately.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Claire Raynor
NovaGear
#104 - 2013-03-27 07:55:15 UTC
Korgan Nailo wrote:
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Tied into the above would be pushing for changes to the current isk making standards for the majority of players, namely missions & mining. While these are a necessity, surely they can be improved with regards to the level of attention needed, and to the challenge they offer, making the tedium of isk generation much more interesting for players. And better pve related content with a more active element can only serve to help retain players in my opinion.

Hello Mangala,

You got my vote there. But aside from just voting, I would like to share my thoughts about a portion of the game I really wish existed.

I started playing because a friend of mine invited me to, we both love Sci-Fi, space based games, and EVE seemed like a great choice. It is a great game, it is pretty and addicting. However, there is a problem, after the first 3 months into the game, there isn't much both of us could do together.

Incursions require at least 10 or more people for the smaller sites, while L4s are ok solo, but if done with more than one player, become almost worst than mining.

Then in comes the question: What sort of PvE can one do in EVE with one or two friends?

For the past year, we basically "talk" about EVE, but when it comes to play, we play individually, or he joins RvB fleets here and there. We came to a pathetic situation once when he was running some missions, and so was I, but unless we had a blockade or worlds collide, we just kept doing our missions on our own while chatting through Skype.

Anyway, if you feel like commenting, I'm curious to know what you think about such content, if it should exist at all, or any other ideas you feel like sharing.

Thanks.

KN


Hi Korgan - Just some thoughts - But if one of you trained up probes and the other stayed in a combat ship - you can do what Malcanis said and do some plexing. You could also do ninja salvage in Hi Sec for LOLs - and working together with someone else really opens up lo-sec. And then once in Lo Sec you have access to even better sites from exploration.

Have a look at some things I posted here Which might help - I hope

PS Vote Mangala
Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#105 - 2013-03-27 12:46:42 UTC
Korgan Nailo wrote:
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Firstly thanks for the Endorsement, remember this is not the only stage of the election, there is another stage starting again next week, and that stage is much more important. Hopefully your vote carries me into that phase and then you decide chose me as one of your preferred candidates again.

To answer your concern, let me go with the same answer as Malcanis provided here. Plexes (or Complexes), these are content that needs to be scanned down and then can involve anything from pve against rats to hacking and even mining. The more combat focused ones are the DED Complexes and are found through scanning all over space and do make an excellent way to work with other people. Especially when it comes to those in lowsec and beyond.

I do feel though that missions as a whole should be more of a group activity than they are right now in addition to incursions and even plexes - with rewards scaling in a similar way to incursions. Could increase socialisation between players and give those such as you the opportunity to group with your friends and get worth while rewards as a result.
Korgan Nailo
5ER3NITY INC
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#106 - 2013-03-27 19:15:13 UTC
Thank you Malcannis, Claire Raynor and Mangala for your replies.

I'll look into complexes, and Mangala's last paragraph is exactly what I think too for missions. =)

KN

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Xander Phoena
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2013-03-28 01:18:00 UTC
I interviewed Mangala as part of the Crossing Zebras CSM8 Election Interviews. You can check out what he had to say here

http://c-z.me/csm8mangalasolaris

www.crossingzebras.com
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#108 - 2013-03-28 17:37:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Hey Mang,

on the CSM Vote Match site you answered the question:
"There should be a mechanic (POS module/ship/deployable) that allows clone jumping and clone swapping, including in wormhole systems"
with Yes, and stated the importance as very important.
You commented:
"Reading about the sleeper tech DUST clone tech is based on in Templar One, kinda has something similar to this, so a change in jump Clone tech could easily work."

Now I just listened to your interview and am a bit confused at to why you feel very important about this if you say yourself that you don't know much about wormholes at all.
Do you e.g. know that Rorquals, who have a Cloning Vat Bay, do specifically not allow clone jumps in w-space.

Why do you think, from a gameplay perspective, it should be possible to clone jump in and out of wormhole space?
Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#109 - 2013-03-28 18:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mangala Solaris
While I know little about WH's I do follow the EVE lore a little, and think that such an addition can be added in in such a way that it actually refers to the grand back story of EVE.

And who is to say that rorquals would continue to not allow it if you updated the mechanic to reflect technical advances outside of what the Jove gave us to start the capsuleer era.

I chose very important on that as yes I dont know much about WHs, but I do think this mechanic could be added in quite easily - hell theres a whole bunch of things surrounding it you could do to still make it a limited application system.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#110 - 2013-03-28 20:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Mangala Solaris wrote:
While I know little about WH's I do follow the EVE lore a little, and think that such an addition can be added in in such a way that it actually refers to the grand back story of EVE.

And who is to say that rorquals would continue to not allow it if you updated the mechanic to reflect technical advances outside of what the Jove gave us to start the capsuleer era.

I chose very important on that as yes I dont know much about WHs, but I do think this mechanic could be added in quite easily - hell theres a whole bunch of things surrounding it you could do to still make it a limited application system.

Sadly, you only adressed lore and technical issues, but did not answer my question.
Let me bold the relevant part:
Why do you think, from a gameplay perspective, it should be possible to clone jump in and out of wormhole space?

// Edit:
Don't get me wrong, you are currently #2 on my preference list, but to me it really seems, in this case, you don't know what you are talking about. Which isn't bad, I really loved how you openly stated your relation to wormholes on the interview. This was basically the only item on the CSM match list that lightend up red when I ran the test, so I got curious.
sens1
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2013-03-29 14:40:57 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2013-04-01 22:10:36 UTC
Mangala will be on my recommended ballot. I hope the entire RvB community turns out for him.

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Frying Doom
#113 - 2013-04-01 22:42:00 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Mangala will be on my recommended ballot. I hope the entire RvB community turns out for him.

That is actually pretty funny when you think about it. There will be 28 candidates on the main ballot, so to get one of Trebors recommendations you get almost a 50/50 shot as one of his recommendations will naturally be himself.

But then he has realized that if he gets recommended high enough on enough peoples ballots he will get himself re-elected from their left over votes.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#114 - 2013-04-01 23:29:59 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Mangala will be on my recommended ballot. I hope the entire RvB community turns out for him.

That is actually pretty funny when you think about it. There will be 28 candidates on the main ballot, so to get one of Trebors recommendations you get almost a 50/50 shot as one of his recommendations will naturally be himself.

But then he has realized that if he gets recommended high enough on enough peoples ballots he will get himself re-elected from their left over votes.

It may be more than 28 (35? max), assuming more then 28 get 200 endorsements.

But he also excluded Bloc candidcates from the get go..
"None of my recommendations are bloc candidates. [...] their blocs will ensure they get elected, and supporting them isn't tactically wise under STV. "

I had a similar thought as you when reading that blog post..
Frying Doom
#115 - 2013-04-02 00:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Mangala will be on my recommended ballot. I hope the entire RvB community turns out for him.

That is actually pretty funny when you think about it. There will be 28 candidates on the main ballot, so to get one of Trebors recommendations you get almost a 50/50 shot as one of his recommendations will naturally be himself.

But then he has realized that if he gets recommended high enough on enough peoples ballots he will get himself re-elected from their left over votes.

It may be more than 28 (35? max), assuming more then 28 get 200 endorsements.

But he also excluded Bloc candidcates from the get go..
"None of my recommendations are bloc candidates. [...] their blocs will ensure they get elected, and supporting them isn't tactically wise under STV. "

I had a similar thought as you when reading that blog post..

Yes and the bloc candidates are likely to have other bloc candidates through most of their list, so even if Trebor got on their suggested ballots it would make little difference.

If however he is recommended near the top on the non-bloc candidates suggested ballots and they fail to get elected them selves or get elected and have surplus votes, he is more likely to benefit from this.

For example if Mangala has him third on the list and is elected then any roll on votes count towards the second preference and if those roll ons plus that persons base votes get them elected then Trebor gets the left overs for himself, do that with 13 candidates and you are pretty much guaranteed of election.

Where as being 14th on a bloc voters list will do him absolutely no good at all.

As to more than 28 being qualified, from what CCP Dolan has said on crossing zebras you are probably right.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#116 - 2013-04-02 03:12:54 UTC
At this time I would like to ask the candidates to think carefully about any endorsements that they give.

By putting other candidates on your ballot you are effectively giving them any excess votes you may have if you become elected or all of your votes if you are knocked out of the election.

So the choice of who you endorse and in what order you endorse them on your proposed ballot is very important.

Remember that these people are voting for you and a lot of people will rely on your proposed ballot.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#117 - 2013-04-02 06:14:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ali Aras
Frying Doom wrote:

If however he is recommended near the top on the non-bloc candidates suggested ballots and they fail to get elected them selves or get elected and have surplus votes, he is more likely to benefit from this.

For example if Mangala has him third on the list and is elected then any roll on votes count towards the second preference and if those roll ons plus that persons base votes get them elected then Trebor gets the left overs for himself, do that with 13 candidates and you are pretty much guaranteed of election.

Where as being 14th on a bloc voters list will do him absolutely no good at all.

As to more than 28 being qualified, from what CCP Dolan has said on crossing zebras you are probably right.

There's a max as to how much anyone can benefit from being at the top of people's ballots. If he's near the top of every non-bloc candidate's ballot (and I have no idea if he is, I doubt it), then he still just...gets elected. Which is likely to happen anyways. His votes trickle down to Malcanis and Ripard Teg (if people voting for him are following his endorsement list), who are also likely to be elected. Their votes trickle down to corebloodbrothers on Trebor's ballot, and me on Ripard's ballot (after some circular redistribution), plus whoever Malcanis puts second and/or third until you hit a candidate who'll need votes on his ballot. Unlike in past elections, there's no real way to get Trebor super-elected or anything like that (I'm not sure, even with a fair bit of vote-sharing, that he's got a shot for chairman vs. the organized bloc-set).

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Frying Doom
#118 - 2013-04-02 06:24:26 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

If however he is recommended near the top on the non-bloc candidates suggested ballots and they fail to get elected them selves or get elected and have surplus votes, he is more likely to benefit from this.

For example if Mangala has him third on the list and is elected then any roll on votes count towards the second preference and if those roll ons plus that persons base votes get them elected then Trebor gets the left overs for himself, do that with 13 candidates and you are pretty much guaranteed of election.

Where as being 14th on a bloc voters list will do him absolutely no good at all.

As to more than 28 being qualified, from what CCP Dolan has said on crossing zebras you are probably right.

There's a max as to how much anyone can benefit from being at the top of people's ballots. If he's near the top of every non-bloc candidate's ballot (and I have no idea if he is, I doubt it), then he still just...gets elected. Which is likely to happen anyways. His votes trickle down to Malcanis and Ripard Teg (if people voting for him are following his endorsement list), who are also likely to be elected. Their votes trickle down to corebloodbrothers on Trebor's ballot, and me on Ripard's ballot (after some circular redistribution), plus whoever Malcanis puts second and/or third until you hit a candidate who'll need votes on his ballot. Unlike in past elections, there's no real way to get Trebor super-elected or anything like that (I'm not sure, even with a fair bit of vote-sharing, that he's got a shot for chairman vs. the organized bloc-set).

What I was getting at is the fact that those who you endorse and where you put them on your proposed balance is important.

People will become members of the CSM or not based on those proposed ballots and being higher on a large number of non-block ballots is an important way of securing your position on the CSM.

As to super elected as you put it no it is unlikely and as I stated in another thread, does that automatically imply that the 2 that automatically go to Iceland need to be the Chairman and the secretary, as you can hardly have a summit without them.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Kat dam'Yah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2013-04-02 23:40:51 UTC
+1 ...vote to follow & best of luck! Smile
Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#120 - 2013-04-03 11:17:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mangala Solaris
As with many other Candidates including Trebor, Ripard, Malcanis, and no doubt everyone else I am going to provide a list of recommended candidates and here we are!

Without any further ado:

1. Mangala Solaris – Well plenty of you know me, are hopefully supporting me, and I would relish the opportunity to represent you on the 8th CSM.

2. Ripard Teg – Very experienced in EVE. Understands many different aspects of the game and its mechanics. Is a damn prolific blogger too so no worries on potential lack of communication!

3. Ali Aras – very focused on the experience of new players in game. Which is something the CSM really needs, new players are important to EVE (and to us in RvB!).

4. Malcanis – While in a null bloc, Malcanis is not officially a bloc candidate as far as I know. I have chosen to recommend him as he has been around EVE for a long time, knows his stuff really well, knows how to put across an excellent argument and has pretty good opinions/ideas on all aspects of EVE.

5. Trebor Daehdoow – When it comes to CSM experience, Trebor is the man here. Has a strong presence in anything CSM related and with CCP Xhagen no longer working on CSM things he will be especially needed by CSM 8. Additionally while his ideas on certain aspects of the game arent to my own tastes, he argues their points well as both devils advocate and actual advocate. Also he makes Poetic really mad.

6. Nathan Jameson – Nathan is the first of my 2 WH picks for this ballot. He is very well grounded in WH’s and in Talocan has founded one of the largest & most stable WH alliances.

7. Mike Azariah – Casual players (and by that I don’t mean bad players which some equate Casual with) need a voice too. Mike would make an excellent rep for people who play as casual and have tried varying aspects of EVE, never finding a single niche. Future expansion releases could give this type of player even more to do, so CCP need some guidance from players such as Mike.

8. Psychotic Monk – A candidate who is for a better “alternative lifestyle” highsec. He has solid ideas, doesn’t have the rabble rabble nonsense that James 315 did and with belligerent undesirables is teaching people to get out and create their own stories in EVE, which is something that drives people to play this game in the ways they do.

9. Corebloodbrothers – Provi guy, who like me wants to see the game keep evolving, and even though he is Provi, has a solid love of PVP. 2 excellent reasons to list him in my book.

10. Unforgiven Storm – Another guy who while in a bloc, does not have the official bloc representative tag. His main platform is industry and improvements to all its forms. He has a solid industry background to support him and the CSM in general in this endeavour.

11. James Arget – my other WH pick. Probably the most likely to get onto CSM out of the WH groups due to his broad appeal amongst those groups, and I think he is the most knowledgeable of the WH candidates when it comes to the actual mechanics of them.

12. Mynnna - Yes the CFC’s main candidate gets a recommendation from me. The guy has a very solid grasp of what the CSM is and should be doing during its term, backed up by a wealth of game knowledge.

13. Steve Ronuken – Totally a “little fish” in the CSM 8 Candidate pool. I like the guy’s perspective on war decs, non-consensual pvp, & his view of null is similar to my own. He would also be a valuable candidate for the 3rd party app community to have representing them on the CSM.

14. Roc Wieler - He wants the 8th CSM to be the best it can for as many as it can and will work to make it happen, and is a very strong voice in the community overall.

Please note, this listing is not in any particular order after the top spot!