EVE General Discussion

Hopefully all of them you whiny man child... But i guess just like everyone else, you have to wait and see.

So why isn't null worth mining?

Lack of industry in general seems to be the problem, not that null mining isn't worthwhile. It seems the fundamental problem is that you can't see locally which causes the miners/industrialists to be even bigger targets causing more stress. The other stuff is just a part of null and isn't going to change (e.g. politics, dictating play style).

Though that's partly, but not entirely, due to the major null alliance's opinion of industrialists. The first and overriding criteria of a lot of null alliances is, do you have lots of PvP experience and can you fly the ships if our PvP fleet doctrines.

Easier industry would be good, but so would null sec alliance adjusting their attitudes towards industrialists (some not all have this problem).

And is sufficient to make me not be a null industrialist.

Right now, I can play EVE as a high-sec, carebear industrialist.

I can log in, find belts to mine, mine them with little to no stress, convert my mins to ISK with little hassle, log out... all with low stress and few hassles. In fact, i can even easily do this on 4 accounts, so I run 4 accounts.


If the Odyssey changes eliminate my ability to play this casual, no stress, no hassle, always something profitable to do, play style, then CCP will have eliminated me, and my four accounts, from the game.

In preparation for this possibility, I thought it only prudent to cancel the auto-renewal of my 4 subscriptions that were scheduled for May.

I'm the latter. I'm not willing to fight, to put up with hassles. It is a game, and is supposed to be fun. I'm not going to play if it is work, a hassle, high stress.

I'm a casual player. I've embraced, and owned, the role of high-sec carebear.

If so many players want me out of the game, and CCP is hinting they may be moving that direction, then how can it be anything but prudent for me to cancel my auto-renewal of subscriptions?

I can't see how urging other high-sec carebears to do the same is a rant or rumor mongering.


Perhaps if CCP would give us some details on what they are thinking with this "remove tediousness" and "industrial resource rebalance" talk, then maybe it wouldn't be prudent to prepare to unsub all those accounts. With lack of details, it has to be considered prudent to not have multiple accounts auto-renew their subscription, for extended periods of time, a month or two before what could possibly be a significant change to the high-sec, carebear play style.

no you wouldn't do it, but what you do and don't do is irrelevant.

the fact remains null sec mining is less isk/hour than high sec mining.

now go and pretend i care what you have to say somewhere else.

Listen you spotty 13 year old.

High-sec Care-bears are good for the game and have a much more competitive industry to live in than some of you null sec whining care bears.

For what it is worth my opinion of the state of the game is the only thing that needs to change is null sec. I like low sec where it is around about now, but null sec is an endless emptiness with quite possible up to 90% of null sec being unused other than to moon mine a few of the moons in the system.

Your anger at high sec care bears is completely misdirected, not everyone's end game is to become a member of a flock of sheep. Not everyone wants to play the game in a group.

No wai.

We are all a 40 year old, hardcore, fat, neckbearded nerds living in moma's basement, with cheetos smelling keyboards.

Eve can't be less hardcore, because people with lives could ruin our self esteem by talking about their succesful lives.

you were the only one. not that it matters. ISD closed it after i reported it's lack of content.

because a minerals isk/m3 is irrelevant. however i will assume you mean ore, because that is relevant. simply put you're wrong saying "every" because not all of them are. combined with the fact that you can't cherry pick ore in 0.0 you end up having to mine 2m isk/jetcan ores along with the 7m isk/jetcan ores. due to the composition of the sites in 0.0 most of these sites are worth less isk/m3 than scordite, which can be cherry picked in high sec.

at the end of the day, how much isk/hour mining makes in comparison to activity Y isn't the issue here (nor does it massively matter in the grand scheme of things) the issue is the fact that null sec mining simply isn't worth getting in to, in comparison to high sec mining. this is before we even consider logistics, and the restraints of being in a player corp, etc.