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Repurposing Navy tier 1 cruisers and T2 Logistics.
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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-18 21:02:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
Grunnax Aurelius wrote:


Yeah cause an un-jammable falcon is so not OP.............

Well considering that what your saying is already well within the roles of possible your point is pointless. Just get ECCM implants or even one projected ECCM.

Lol

Garviel Tarrant wrote:
I'm against any idea to give Logi any sort of buff what so ever.. <.<

It's not a direct buff, if this was done it wouldn't just be an extra bonus tacked on. The T2 Logi ships would have their abilities reduced and the faction cruisers would inherit their abilities.

androch wrote:
its not enough that the t2's can fit large reppers and can use them 50-60km farther than the t1's?

Such an ability seems rather necessary to their role on the battlefield doesn't it?

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Grunnax Aurelius
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2013-02-18 21:36:37 UTC
Commander Ted wrote:
I am saying that the faction ships should serve the role the current logistics ships fill. The T2 Logistics ships will not be dedicated repair ships but be able to repair effectively while also providing a secondary electronics bonus. They will not rep as good as they do now. Let me make that clear, THEY WILL NOT REP AS GOOD AS THEY DO NOW FACTION SHIPS WILL TAKE THEIR PLACE


Just NO!!!

You are trying to change a system that is currently working fine!!!

Just quit it, your lucky you dont have some high end logistics pilots in here commenting on this thread, because they would be telling you to STFU.

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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-02-18 21:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
Grunnax Aurelius wrote:


Just NO!!!

You are trying to change a system that is currently working fine!!!

Just quit it, your lucky you dont have some high end logistics pilots in here commenting on this thread, because they would be telling you to STFU.


All im proposing is a way to make the systm work along with how CCP themselves said they wanted things to work. Why would a logistics pilot oppose having cheaper logistics ships and a second type of logistics ship.

http://www.themontolio.com/features/improving-logistics-ships

Proof im not alone in the desire for something other than just giving health for logistics ships to do. What gets your jimmies so extremely rustled over just swapping roles to another ship that is otherwise useless.

**** its not even that big a buff since you said yourself current ECCM can make ships nearly unjammable, so really you just debunked your own argument. It's almost as if you just gave up the route of trying to rationaly argue me on a point counter point basis and instead opted for "STFU Stupid noob i know better than you lolololololol" method.

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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-03-28 16:19:49 UTC
with the odyssey changes it seems like its a good time to bump this.

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DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
#25 - 2013-03-28 16:34:40 UTC
Commander Ted wrote:
I am saying that the faction ships should serve the role the current logistics ships fill. The T2 Logistics ships will not be dedicated repair ships but be able to repair effectively while also providing a secondary electronics bonus. They will not rep as good as they do now. Let me make that clear, THEY WILL NOT REP AS GOOD AS THEY DO NOW FACTION SHIPS WILL TAKE THEIR PLACE


Why should faction ships surpass T2 logi reps? The Bhaalgorn's relationship to other neut ships (i.e. absolutely no rival at all ever) is bad and should not be replicated. However, your idea of moderate reps + other effect sounds like a great idea for pirate faction logi.

Now I can't unthink the idea of a Sansha healboat covered in spikes.
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-28 17:12:12 UTC
DJ P0N-3 wrote:

Why should faction ships surpass T2 logi reps? The Bhaalgorn's relationship to other neut ships (i.e. absolutely no rival at all ever) is bad and should not be replicated. However, your idea of moderate reps + other effect sounds like a great idea for pirate faction logi.

Now I can't unthink the idea of a Sansha healboat covered in spikes.


All of the pirate ships have something in the way extreme with some extra utility, Angels are unrivaled in speed, vindi's are unrivaled in dps, guristas have the best tank, and sansha do something.

No pirate ships are "meh" in lots of things, they kick ass in one category and have no equals.

Faction ships are just the same thing as t1 but tweaked up, T2 are specialized for highly particular roles.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#27 - 2013-03-28 17:30:08 UTC
Not supporting. Touch my ENI and you die. Got it? Big smile
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-03-28 17:45:54 UTC
+1 I was kinda sad when we lost the Tracking Link bonus on the Scythe. It would be nice to have it back on a fleet scythe.

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Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-03-28 18:00:39 UTC
Someone wants to turn my scim into something just so the scythe fleet issue can be shoved into it's role.

I withhold my support for this idea. Good day sir.
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