EVE General Discussion

That's a remote sensor dampener.

Make it a reduction of max locked targets and you have something new. Probably needs a number lower than 1 per module.

In before move

Because everyone has their own opinion on the subject of ECM. How about instead of jamming

One of the modules targets high slots making them take longer to cycle
One of the modules targets mid slots making them cycle faster
One of the modules targets low slots making them cycle faster
One of the modules picks targets randomly between mid and low
One of the modules just gets removed

counter measures are now passive/buffer modules (since they can't be sped up) and fast cycling weapons. counter ecm is now a module that you activate that immediately turns off a module with no cycle penalty. Projected ECM adds a "charge" to a ship that soaks up an action of ECM. ECM now is 100% but chooses a slot at random.

Do appologise if this makes no sense, I am on painkiller medication.

There are , but the very notion of adding elements of chance to something is stupid .
Thats why I am advocating the merging of ECM and sensor damps

Whenever I see people opposing change , I think of this cartoon

That is worse :P
Nerfing does it equal to fixing

I say decrease the cycle time but lower the strength.

ECM hits more often but is less likely to succeed while also giving the target a chance to try re-locking sooner.

I'm sorry but all these people still crying for ECM nerfs are just idiotic and have never flown ECM.

Last time I'm going to explain this, a ship has a strength of say 7 on his jammer, target ship has a sensor strength of say 14 which neither are far fetched numbers. In this instance the jammers would jam 7 times out of 14, 7:14.... so 50% chance, now with their cycle time a 50% chance isn't as great as it sounds.

With these new sensor backup skills around now many more ships will have a higher sensor strength making them hard to jam, CCP have already nerfed the range of ECM into the ground as well as offering substantial buffs to ships sensors.

I admit being perma jammed is frustrating and annoying, but there are modules (backup arrays) to pretty much make you unjamable. So maybe spare a slot and fit one if it bugs you so much?

I remember the days of sitting out at almost 200km in a falcon jamming things then warping off and coming back doing the same as soon as tackle got close, that needed nerfing. Current mechanics are fine find something else to cry about, caldari are already pretty bad as it is!


Once ECM has been squashed I'd put money on the fact the cry-babies will set their eyes on sensor damps and arazu's scrambling and dampening a ship down blah blah....... If this trend of "balancing" continues we will all be flying yellow, blue, green and red space bricks all looking the same, fitting the same acting the same, ships and more importantly races need their "op" ships as a draw to that race.

This is actually quite a good idea. Anti-module jammers that randomly turn something off.

This is a stupid thing to say. While I appreciate the sentiment, there is no reason to fit ECCM past defence against ECM modules, which you may not ever encounter in a fight. It's luck as to what the enemy brings.

This guy put it well, ages ago:



Let's not forget the fact that ECM dedicated ships have enough power to permajam most any subcap even if they do fit ECCM.