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Goons threaten me at Uedama (Freighter)

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Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-03-22 14:35:39 UTC
Telkom wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

The fact that you shed some tears here will only motivate them more to gank you for more.

NEVER FLY A SHIP YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. If you don't even have 50 mill on hand after buying a freighter, you are doing something wrong.

What I'm looking for is not another preach, I need solutions on what should I do now.

I know there's something wrong with me, But I'm getting tired transporting these things with Mammoth that takes dozen rounds. I have more than 50m, but that's not in the shape of ISK, awaiting to be sold.

contract me your freighter.
for 20M i will get the freighter out of Uedama and somewhere safe for you.
Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-03-22 14:44:04 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Zedrik Cayne wrote:


Easiest thing you can do is skill up. Most freighter alts have bad navigation skills making thjeir freighters exceptionally slow on the helm. Skill yourself up and it will make it harder for them to keep you bumped.

Also, do not forget your hull tanking, shield tanking and armor tanking skills. And skill hardwires for even more buffer. So if it does come to gank time, it is more difficult and expensive for the gankers.

If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.

What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
pwned
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#63 - 2013-03-22 16:42:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHpwned


Hmmm... freighter loot dropped was just under 68,000,000
Freighter value was 1,500,000,000

Hmmm... Jita average on a stock Brutix hull is 42,000,000
Heavy neutron blaster II averages 1,800,000 each, six per Brutix = 10,800,000
God knows what other T2 modules they threw in, but I'm going to guess at least three magnetic field stabilizer IIs @ about 1,000,000 each... so now we're up to at least 55,000,000 per Brutix. Realistically I'd be surprised if any of them were worth less than 70,000,000.

And eight of them fed to CONCORD for lulz. So... probably around 560,000,000 to pull off that gank, maybe more.

So: Did the freighter captain lose more ISK than the gankers? Yes. Dis the gankers make any profit? Heck no. Even after looting they're still down half a billion ISK, assuming the had backup ships on hand to carry that much loot.

So while it was successful griefing attack, it sure as heck wasn't a profitable one.

Also...

"Pwned?" I think not. I'm guessing that like most mindless leetards you just throw that word around with wild abandon and have never actually seen the chess board where that phrase was born. So let me educate you on as to why you are so blithering wrong in your application of that phrase. In proper context to "pawn" someone means to capture a piece with a pawn. Since the pawn is considered to be the lowest value piece on the chess board, to capture anything larger than another pawn is considered a worthwhile victory because you have defeated a high power unit with a low power unit. In parlance this means the same thing in other games: To "pawn" someone is to defeat an opponent more powerful than yourself through cunning & skill.

A freighter hardly counts as a "powerful" target and ganking certainly does not constitute any measure of skill. Therefore nobody "pawns" a freighter.

Come back when you've knocked out a battelcruiser mono-et-mono with a T1 frigate and then you can talk about "pawning" someone. Because that's what it actually means.

I eagerly await your mindless wrrrgrble leetard-speak response, because it will undoubtedly open even more doors for condescending commentary on my behalf. Big smile

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Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2013-03-22 17:57:05 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHpwned


Hmmm... freighter loot dropped was just under 68,000,000
Freighter value was 1,500,000,000

Hmmm... Jita average on a stock Brutix hull is 42,000,000
Heavy neutron blaster II averages 1,800,000 each, six per Brutix = 10,800,000
God knows what other T2 modules they threw in, but I'm going to guess at least three magnetic field stabilizer IIs @ about 1,000,000 each... so now we're up to at least 55,000,000 per Brutix. Realistically I'd be surprised if any of them were worth less than 70,000,000.

And eight of them fed to CONCORD for lulz. So... probably around 560,000,000 to pull off that gank, maybe more.

So: Did the freighter captain lose more ISK than the gankers? Yes. Dis the gankers make any profit? Heck no. Even after looting they're still down half a billion ISK, assuming the had backup ships on hand to carry that much loot.

So while it was successful griefing attack, it sure as heck wasn't a profitable one.

Also...

"Pwned?" I think not. I'm guessing that like most mindless leetards you just throw that word around with wild abandon and have never actually seen the chess board where that phrase was born. So let me educate you on as to why you are so blithering wrong in your application of that phrase. In proper context to "pawn" someone means to capture a piece with a pawn. Since the pawn is considered to be the lowest value piece on the chess board, to capture anything larger than another pawn is considered a worthwhile victory because you have defeated a high power unit with a low power unit. In parlance this means the same thing in other games: To "pawn" someone is to defeat an opponent more powerful than yourself through cunning & skill.

A freighter hardly counts as a "powerful" target and ganking certainly does not constitute any measure of skill. Therefore nobody "pawns" a freighter.

Come back when you've knocked out a battelcruiser mono-et-mono with a T1 frigate and then you can talk about "pawning" someone. Because that's what it actually means.

I eagerly await your mindless wrrrgrble leetard-speak response, because it will undoubtedly open even more doors for condescending commentary on my behalf. Big smile


what you are missing, there smartypants, is the face that ISK has nothing to do with ganks or kills when done by pros.
they have enough ISK to not care and only want to farm tears.


http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#65 - 2013-03-22 18:04:46 UTC
Glad to see your big boy is safe.

No good deed goes unpunished

Strepor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-03-22 18:40:32 UTC
Remember it's not just about the isk. Tears are priceless.......except miner tears which sell for pennies due to the market being flooded with supply.
xXGRINDXx
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-03-23 08:33:57 UTC
Where's ZEDRIK????

Respond to your failvice... some people.
flakeys
Doomheim
#68 - 2013-03-23 09:41:08 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Zedrik Cayne wrote:


Easiest thing you can do is skill up. Most freighter alts have bad navigation skills making thjeir freighters exceptionally slow on the helm. Skill yourself up and it will make it harder for them to keep you bumped.

Also, do not forget your hull tanking, shield tanking and armor tanking skills. And skill hardwires for even more buffer. So if it does come to gank time, it is more difficult and expensive for the gankers.

If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.

What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022


Welll goonie did make me smile there Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Osiris Andras
Intergalactic Space Maoris
#69 - 2013-03-25 02:12:23 UTC
What is this I don't even...

Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHpwned


*Pointless math 'n' stuff*

So while it was successful griefing attack, it sure as heck wasn't a profitable one.

Implying that suicide ganking is primarily done for profit.

Quote:

Also...

"Pwned?" I think not. I'm guessing that like most mindless leetards you just throw that word around with wild abandon and have never actually seen the chess board where that phrase was born. So let me educate you on as to why you are so blithering wrong in your application of that phrase. In proper context to "pawn" someone means to capture a piece with a pawn. Since the pawn is considered to be the lowest value piece on the chess board, to capture anything larger than another pawn is considered a worthwhile victory because you have defeated a high power unit with a low power unit. In parlance this means the same thing in other games: To "pawn" someone is to defeat an opponent more powerful than yourself through cunning & skill.

A freighter hardly counts as a "powerful" target and ganking certainly does not constitute any measure of skill. Therefore nobody "pawns" a freighter.


You must be trolling:
knowyourmeme.com/memes/owned-pwned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

Quote:

Come back when you've knocked out a battelcruiser mono-et-mono with a T1 frigate and then you can talk about "pawning" someone. Because that's what it actually means.

mono-a-mono, a spanish term meaning man-to-man
And see links above

Quote:

I eagerly await your mindless wrrrgrble leetard-speak response, because it will undoubtedly open even more doors for condescending commentary on my behalf. Big smile


Fire away asshat
Tesal
#70 - 2013-03-25 04:55:56 UTC
Telkom wrote:
Is it better to pay them off given if you have the money?


Never pay. Don't be their punk ass *****. Don't be a sucker.
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
#71 - 2013-03-25 16:07:39 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Zedrik Cayne wrote:


Easiest thing you can do is skill up. Most freighter alts have bad navigation skills making thjeir freighters exceptionally slow on the helm. Skill yourself up and it will make it harder for them to keep you bumped.

Also, do not forget your hull tanking, shield tanking and armor tanking skills. And skill hardwires for even more buffer. So if it does come to gank time, it is more difficult and expensive for the gankers.

If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.

What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022


True, you got me. I wasn't quite following my own advice at the time. (ie: Wasn't in my hardwires clone) And even if I had been, you had four or five other guys nearby that could have finished the job.

I didn't say it was impossible? No just that you could make it less easy.

Now, if I had a corpmate or friend to web me into warp at every gate and/or scout... You can *still* suicide gank me. It just gets harder.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon

Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons
Silver Dragonz
#72 - 2013-03-26 15:06:13 UTC
Hello goon salt thread.
In the grand scheme of things... You're all pubbies. So HTFU.   "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses." - Elwood Blues
DEADS0NG
#73 - 2013-03-26 22:03:22 UTC
Honestly if a girl says she only wants 50 mil to shake my big boy, I'm down.
Powers Sa
#74 - 2013-03-27 04:27:57 UTC
Zedrik Cayne wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Zedrik Cayne wrote:


Easiest thing you can do is skill up. Most freighter alts have bad navigation skills making thjeir freighters exceptionally slow on the helm. Skill yourself up and it will make it harder for them to keep you bumped.

Also, do not forget your hull tanking, shield tanking and armor tanking skills. And skill hardwires for even more buffer. So if it does come to gank time, it is more difficult and expensive for the gankers.

If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.

What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022


True, you got me. I wasn't quite following my own advice at the time. (ie: Wasn't in my hardwires clone) And even if I had been, you had four or five other guys nearby that could have finished the job.

I didn't say it was impossible? No just that you could make it less easy.

Now, if I had a corpmate or friend to web me into warp at every gate and/or scout... You can *still* suicide gank me. It just gets harder.

I agree, but you are giving these poor people hope. That's not really fair.

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Joceline
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#75 - 2013-03-28 08:28:35 UTC
If someone is after tears and they have you at a disadvantage, the best thing you can do is either ignore them, or show them you truly don't give a damn and find their efforts humorous. Never act weak, get serious, beg, threaten, etc..

reshipping a gank squad and getting back to your target area takes time. You don't want to waste it on someone who just kind of shrugs you off and doesn't provide any entertainment value.

On the other hand if you are hauling over 1.5b or so, that might change the picture as you become viable as an ISK target.
Tora Bushido
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#76 - 2013-03-28 11:05:50 UTC
If you can afford it and want Uedama area 'safe' again........convo me Blink

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