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BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#1 - 2013-03-27 21:55:10 UTC
My buddy dueled someone last night and got attacked by the guy and his buddy.
Is that supposed to happen?
2 on 1 doesnt seem right but I have no clue.
If you lose do you actually lose your ship or is it like other games where you lose but keep your stuff?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2013-03-27 22:13:18 UTC
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

assuming that you aren't a troll ...

2v1 is completely fair (if you're in a "fair" fight, someone did something wrong). That said, the duel mechanics are new and I really don't care enough about them to have read how they work.

When you lose a duel, you lose your ship. With that said, if it was a "duel" between two (well, three) corp members, none of the "duel" mechanics matter and you can fight as asymmetrically against your corpies as you want without any CONCORD intervention.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#3 - 2013-03-27 22:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Velicitia wrote:
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

assuming that you aren't a troll ...

2v1 is completely fair (if you're in a "fair" fight, someone did something wrong). That said, the duel mechanics are new and I really don't care enough about them to have read how they work.

When you lose a duel, you lose your ship. With that said, if it was a "duel" between two (well, three) corp members, none of the "duel" mechanics matter and you can fight as asymmetrically against your corpies as you want without any CONCORD intervention.


Awesome thanks.
Thanks for the reply.

Please keep personal attacks out of this. Thank you. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-27 22:20:57 UTC
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
My buddy dueled someone last night and got attacked by the guy and his buddy.
Is that supposed to happen?
2 on 1 doesnt seem right but I have no clue.
If you lose do you actually lose your ship or is it like other games where you lose but keep your stuff?


File a petition.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2013-03-27 22:22:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

assuming that you aren't a troll ...

2v1 is completely fair (if you're in a "fair" fight, someone did something wrong). That said, the duel mechanics are new and I really don't care enough about them to have read how they work.

When you lose a duel, you lose your ship. With that said, if it was a "duel" between two (well, three) corp members, none of the "duel" mechanics matter and you can fight as asymmetrically against your corpies as you want without any CONCORD intervention.


Awesome thanks.
Thanks for the reply.

Please keep personal attacks out of this. Thank you. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode



oh no, I'm still saying you're likely a troll ... but gave the details on the off chance you weren't

... forgot to mention -- if he started the "duel" by canflipping, then he went blinky yellow (KOS) to everyone in system. So you may want to read up on the Retribution crimewatch changes

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#6 - 2013-03-27 22:28:39 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
My buddy dueled someone last night and got attacked by the guy and his buddy.
Is that supposed to happen?
2 on 1 doesnt seem right but I have no clue.
If you lose do you actually lose your ship or is it like other games where you lose but keep your stuff?


File a petition.


For what exactly?
IU didnt know if it was normal or not or an exploit.
I thought duels were 1 v 1 but i m not sure
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#7 - 2013-03-27 22:30:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Velicitia wrote:
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

assuming that you aren't a troll ...

2v1 is completely fair (if you're in a "fair" fight, someone did something wrong). That said, the duel mechanics are new and I really don't care enough about them to have read how they work.

When you lose a duel, you lose your ship. With that said, if it was a "duel" between two (well, three) corp members, none of the "duel" mechanics matter and you can fight as asymmetrically against your corpies as you want without any CONCORD intervention.


Awesome thanks.
Thanks for the reply.

Please keep personal attacks out of this. Thank you. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode



oh no, I'm still saying you're likely a troll ... but gave the details on the off chance you weren't

... forgot to mention -- if he started the "duel" by canflipping, then he went blinky yellow (KOS) to everyone in system. So you may want to read up on the Retribution crimewatch changes



Im not and thanks for the reply but whats canflipping exactly?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2013-03-27 22:33:34 UTC
You should ask your question in the following forum:

----> Crime & Punishment




☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-27 22:34:19 UTC
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
My buddy dueled someone last night and got attacked by the guy and his buddy.
Is that supposed to happen?
2 on 1 doesnt seem right but I have no clue.
If you lose do you actually lose your ship or is it like other games where you lose but keep your stuff?


File a petition.


For what exactly?
IU didnt know if it was normal or not or an exploit.
I thought duels were 1 v 1 but i m not sure



lol

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#10 - 2013-03-27 22:37:44 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS wrote:
My buddy dueled someone last night and got attacked by the guy and his buddy.
Is that supposed to happen?
2 on 1 doesnt seem right but I have no clue.
If you lose do you actually lose your ship or is it like other games where you lose but keep your stuff?


File a petition.


For what exactly?
IU didnt know if it was normal or not or an exploit.
I thought duels were 1 v 1 but i m not sure



lol


Awesome answer thanks bro !!!!!
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-27 22:40:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Montevius Williams
There is no arbitrary game mechanic (outside of a few instances) in EVE that stops anyone from attacking anyone, including dueling. Dueling was put in place to get rid of that dumb as jetcan mechanic for starting fights. Nothing more, nothing less.

Instances that keep you from attacking someone else:

POS Shield
Dock
Cloak
In Warp
In Jump

Everything else is fair game

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2013-03-27 22:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
I have removed some off topic and trolling posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#13 - 2013-03-28 02:16:32 UTC
And as normal, a dozen posts of trolls flinging poo and no one actually bothering to actually answer the damn question.

Person accepts duel challenge, is suddenly attacked by two people at once. Is this a bug or "working as intended?" If the latter, what mechanic is used to bring extra people into a duel without CONCORD intervention? If the former, when is it going to be fixed?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#14 - 2013-03-28 02:20:59 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
And as normal, a dozen posts of trolls flinging poo and no one actually bothering to actually answer the damn question.

Person accepts duel challenge, is suddenly attacked by two people at once. Is this a bug or "working as intended?" If the latter, what mechanic is used to bring extra people into a duel without CONCORD intervention? If the former, when is it going to be fixed?


Thank you.Big smile
Alternate Poster
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#15 - 2013-03-28 05:26:21 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll
That said, the duel mechanics are new and I really don't care enough about them to have read how they work.


Hilarious!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2013-03-28 05:34:52 UTC
Why should such a simple question be so difficult?


Yet even I don't know the answer for it.

My theory is, when someone asks a question like that of the OP, it raises an issue. And if it's in the mechanic that you accept a duel with someone, and in come their friends and you get blapped, and asking about it in the forums gets you flamed, then possibly those doing the flaming are the ones padding their killboards with said mechanic and are in the forums metagaming their newfound e-viagra for their e-peens.


Chances are the crime & punishment forum will have a better answer and they do like to game this sort of thing (though they will not hide the fact they game it, and would sooner call out questionable mechanics than play whack-a-mole in the forums to protect easy kills).


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
BORTRON BUTTSEKKS
Boner Kingdom
#17 - 2013-03-28 05:39:24 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Why should such a simple question be so difficult?


Yet even I don't know the answer for it.

My theory is, when someone asks a question like that of the OP, it raises an issue. And if it's in the mechanic that you accept a duel with someone, and in come their friends and you get blapped, and asking about it in the forums gets you flamed, then possibly those doing the flaming are the ones padding their killboards with said mechanic and are in the forums metagaming their newfound e-viagra for their e-peens.


Chances are the crime & punishment forum will have a better answer and they do like to game this sort of thing (though they will not hide the fact they game it, and would sooner call out questionable mechanics than play whack-a-mole in the forums to protect easy kills).




Faith in humanity restored V.Big smile
Thanks I will try there.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#18 - 2013-03-28 06:36:11 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Why should such a simple question be so difficult?

My theory is, when someone asks a question like that of the OP, it raises an issue. And if it's in the mechanic that you accept a duel with someone, and in come their friends and you get blapped, and asking about it in the forums gets you flamed, then possibly those doing the flaming are the ones padding their killboards with said mechanic and are in the forums metagaming their newfound e-viagra for their e-peens.


Please tell me that you're running for CSM. Smile

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-03-28 08:01:30 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
I have removed some off topic and trolling posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

Yeah right. You removed some but you left the initial personal attack / troll remarks that started it all.
And I quote:
Velicitia wrote:
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

I'm expecting this reply to get edited as well.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Velicitia
XS Tech
#20 - 2013-03-28 09:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
I have removed some off topic and trolling posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

Yeah right. You removed some but you left the initial personal attack / troll remarks that started it all.
And I quote:
Velicitia wrote:
1. stupid name + stupid corp name = likely troll (points for not being in teh NPC corp tho)
2. over a year old asking n00b questions = likely a troll

I'm expecting this reply to get edited as well.


DMC


ah, but those are two valid points as to why the original first response (since removed) was to the effect of "0/10, nice troll post".


though yeah, since that post was removed, those look a lot more trollish. meh.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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