EVE General Discussion

Is there any reason not to keep it?

Whatever would you do with all those unemployed alts whose only function is to be in local and pop a cyno for the leet PvP minute where a random carebear is ganked by a bazillion ships?

If you want to argue for its removal then do so, making such a silly and quite frankly non-constructive thread damages your lobby more than it helps it .. goddamn noob lobbyists, you make us all look bad.

...and if you don't like wormholes because THERE ARE NO TARGETS, then that's probably what nullsec will become if delayed local is introduced.

That would be a great gameplay experience for the one watching the gate, right?

The argument has been beaten to death countless times already, it's just not realist to expect a viable life without some automated intel tool.

You think nullsec life it too easy? Then start by trying to take your reasonning farther than "I want to gank more easily" and think about what would happen on the long term.


I'll give you a clue: Everyone would farm with bombers, and would hit cloack/use the agility to warp out as soon as something apeared in D-scan or uncloacked nearby -> no more ganks.

I don't know if you noticed, but a lot of ships get blown up in null sec.

Make it so you can find and run down Cloaked Ships like hunting a Sub and sure.

Otherwise no, they don't get such an easy free pass.

After the sanctum nerf there is hardly any reason to actually live in nullsec and do PvE stuff there. Removing local will be what finally drives the few remaining PvE players back to high sec. Good luck finding targets then.

If there was no local what would we **** up on fleets with spam and bad porn? We need local for circle jerking, **** talking, and spam. And people seeing you in local doesn't prevent you from getting kills. Just ask snigg and PL, they're in our space 23.5/7, we see them in system, we see that there are 12 of them, and people still get killed.

I guess it kinda reminds me of how prisoners used to be made to turn cranks that did nothing but move paddles through sand all day long.

With scanning as it is at the moment I cannot see the removal of local as anything but making each player quite literally grind a button all day long. I think it may be viable for short periods, I do it myself while roaming, but for the majority of people I have to surmise that such a level of "intensity" would be detrimental to their enjoyment.

D-Scan itself needs an overhaul such as being able to identify friendlies - IFF for example exists today yet in EvE, ships, even in fleet, have no way of broadcasting their coordinates to each other short of warping to, something which is always fun when you're flying in a bomber fleet, heh.

Personally though, I don't think local is broken and should be left as-is.

Hell, maybe throw in deployable limited-lifetime proximity detector probes and the likes for good measure.

So you don't really want the "easy-mode" button removed. You want it taken away from them and given to you.

Brooks Puuntai is right. Before local chat is removed there needs to be a system in place that is unbiased to all parties involved, maybe with a slight advantage to the defenders.

Perhaps it should list the name of every character in the system and standings, without any indication as to whether they're cloaked or docked. Perhaps they should call it "local"