Ships & Modules

So now medium railguns have even less range.

Considering they can't track anything within optimal range anyway, they really needed that extra falloff.

For the love of GOD why can't CCP buff things that don't work instead of nerfing what does.

So we will all still be in our drakes with their nerfed heavy missles because they still have more range than everything else.

Good to see CCP still flailing about aimlessly with no plan.

But he makes a valid point prior to his ending asumption.

Unless TDs get tweaked, which I have heard zero about happening.. and with the likely cruise buff coming with the TE adjustment.. the potential to just be missile fleets, and only missile fleets is a very real possibility. Is that really their plan?

In a lot of people's minds, we would be going through the laser age, to proj, to hybrid, and now I suppose the missle age. Now, I personally don't agree with that following over the years.. but it does hold a parsel of truth. My question to CCP is.. is that in any way fueling their decision making.. and how much do they really play all fronts, from fleet to gang to skirms to 1v1-1v2+ to wh to missions to anoms. Not going to make all sectors happy.. but a choice that pretty much punches all of them in the face, is a rather odd 'plan-path' to be taking.

Another thing to consider.. is this a stealth armor buff/shield nerf? If TCs become superior and more prevelent.. knock out need for a low and make use of mids for turret enhancement. Rather odd to dump a bigger load on mid-needs with a turret enhancement, when it already has prop, ewar, cap to hold. Lows having turret dmg enhancement and speed enhancements mostly for the average combat pilot. I find that plan.. a bit hampering to turret-mount shield tanks.

I personally don't care.. my combat orientated toons are at a point that I can field w/e gun n tank style, I'll adjust easily. But that doesn't mean I have to believe this particular decision, coupled with future/past mechanic changes weighing on this to be a good one.

I honestly fear the result this is going to have on arty/laser fleets and null ammo.. WAY over the effects on AC-kite boats.

CCP is most like blind chicken hit grain, but missed again, i ask only one question for CCP, did u notice u have less and less old players, some accounts maybee is still active but ppl stop playing

... this games go in wrong direction and what they do with game in last year is disaster, failed re-balance

BTW. plz more rookie shiny textures at last u will get in some time ppl who can fly only that on trial accounts for 14 days, make look and lose old unique eve sense

I agree. Infact.. I can see rails coming out from this on the better end, indirectly. Altho.. not quite to the same extent to what is going to happen to medium and small scorch platforms. As if Omens weren't sexy enough already...

My point was towards his 'drake' comment.. and it is a legitament one for a fleet pilot to make.

Some would say "it's about time". Very strange. This change should have happened awhile back. I argued for it ALOT. Even though I really like Minmtar ships and skirmishing tactics.

HOWEVER, I knew it would put Minmatar ships back inline with Gallente ships.

Hmm. I've been going over what ships this would effect that I fly. Talos, Tornado, Cynabal (but i dont fly it much), Vagabond (but i dont fly it much), Vigilant (shield), Sliepnir AND Vindicater (shield). ****! This may even hurt some shield-laser-ships or ships like the Slicer and Coercer.

All, this means is I'll have to fly alot more Amarr and Caldari. Well, more of the former than the later. Hahaha. Not really...

Anyway.

I believe this change should have been done a long time ago and I welcome it. It may prove to be a profound change. However, I'll still choose missiles over lasers and autocannons solo.


- killz

EDIT: Talos stays p much the same. The Hurricane is getting owned though. Unless your into tripple tracking enhancers. Amussing.

dude... what?

Medium rails go on vexors, vexors do a lot more than 350 dps @ 45km. ie "balancing" medium rails is not a trivial task.

Yes, for all guns.. that equip TEs.

Rough example.. take a cynabal with 425s + 2x gyro 1x TE vs vigi with 250s + 2x mag 1x TE.

Pre-nerf.. the dps curve in the kiting zone (which I equate to 15km-21km.. above OH web range, before T2 point range plus pilot 'error' buffer sandwiching each).. you are going to hovor in the 335-290 dps range with a cynabal. In the vigi you are going to be at 440 dps flat throughout.

Post-nerf to TE.. the dps curve for the cynabal changes to 315-275 dps range with a cynabal. In the vigi you are going to be at 440 dps flat throughout, again.

Now.. feel free to make your arguement that revolves around the ships, rather than the weapon platforms performance abilities. The latter actually being the discussion, mind you.

The 250 rail could also just completely dump the TE for a third mag.. both still using 3 lows for turret enhancement.. and put up 500-485 in the kite zone.

If you wish to bring up tracking.. feel free. I'll say, learn how to pilot effectively rather than easily.

Don't forget the "wah plz buff flabber" whines.

There have never been more minmatar tears.

By "fine" you mean as screwed as before. Lol@ slowboat with rails. Good luck with that. Nice going there, 2 to 1 with a "brawler bud." The kiter will pop your brawler bud then warp off to repair, then come back to pop you.