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Will freighters be given reimbursment with Odyssey?
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TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-27 23:14:28 UTC
Will freighter be given a skill reimbursement with Odyssey? Right now I can almost fly a a freighter. I just need advance spaceship command 1. After Odyssey I will need spaceship command 5. If I train advance space spaceship command1 now, will get a advance spaceship command 5 after?

This goes with their saying, fly it now, fly it latter.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-03-27 23:14:59 UTC
Nope

But you will still be able to fly it.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#3 - 2013-03-27 23:15:10 UTC
No
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-03-27 23:15:14 UTC
No.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-27 23:19:08 UTC
but the requirement will change to Advance Spaceship command 5. If I can fly it at leve1 now, I wont after the patch?
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-03-27 23:22:31 UTC
If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.

Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway.
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-03-27 23:23:57 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.

Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway.

Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2013-03-27 23:28:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
TheTravler wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.

Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway.

Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?

You only need the prerequisite to inject a skill... you do not need the prerequisites to actually fly a ship... just the primary skill.

How did you Veterans start?
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-27 23:28:42 UTC
TheTravler wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.

Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway.

Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?


No you will not need it to fly it, you need it to learn the freighter skill. Once you have that skill it doesnt matter what prerequirements change.
Mark Munoz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-27 23:38:04 UTC
The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.

So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1.
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-27 23:39:07 UTC
So when it says I need advance spaceship5 to fly, I really only need level1?
WTF

http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-03-27 23:40:23 UTC
Mark Munoz wrote:
The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.

So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1.


I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-03-27 23:42:03 UTC
The way the game works it out is that you only need the actual primary and possibly also the tertiary skills at the top of the tree to fly the ship. All of the other skills given are simply required to inject the skill and have no other relevance as far as the actual game code is concerned.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#14 - 2013-03-27 23:43:04 UTC
TheTravler wrote:
Mark Munoz wrote:
The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.

So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1.


I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?


Wrong.

Today, you need Freighter 1 to fly the ship. Tomorrow, you will need Freighter 1 to fly the ship.

The pre-reqs for Freighter 1 will change, but that doesn't matter.

Not all pre-reqs are created equal, and this is how nested pre-reqs work. Same thing happens if you get Carrier 1, get podded and lose BS 5: you can still fly a Carrier because BS V is not a pre-req for flying the carrier, just for training the skill.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#15 - 2013-03-27 23:43:27 UTC
Five to one baby, one in five...no one gets out of here alive.
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-03-27 23:46:15 UTC
I'm talking about the skill required to FLY the ship, not the skills required to learn the skills to fly the ship.
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-03-27 23:47:41 UTC
TheTravler wrote:
I'm talking about the skill required to FLY the ship, not the skills required to learn the skills to fly the ship.
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg


It's been explained to you pretty clearly in the posts above, I suggest you re read them.
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#18 - 2013-03-27 23:48:32 UTC
It's called Skill nesting, the prerequisite skills are to inject and train the skill once you have it you have it. So you could fly your freighter at the level you trained it before prerequisites change but to train it any higher you will have to meet the new requirements.

So if you can fly it before you can after. the only case this is not true is with faction Battleships as the Battleship skill is increasing but for the love for all that is rusty you should have your BB skill higher than 1 any way.
TheTravler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-03-27 23:52:50 UTC
Has anyone looked at the link I posted?

After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#20 - 2013-03-27 23:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
TheTravler wrote:
I'm talking about the skill required to FLY the ship, not the skills required to learn the skills to fly the ship.
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg


And look at the two pre-reqs to fly the ship listed in your picture.

Before: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I
After: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I

The pre-reqs nested below those skills are not required to fly the ship. They're just required to inject those skills.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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