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Mining: Working As Intended

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Dave Stark
#61 - 2013-03-26 00:14:29 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
@ Dave -- Can you clarify what you mean about the bot removal not leaving a vacuum (though, I suppose "deficit" is a better term)? Also, source on miner numbers going up would be awesome, as I don't recall seeing that devblog (or, more likely, I skimmed right over it).


i don't think any one was really "pushed out of mining", but there's no doubt there's a "deficit" of minerals in comparison to what there was, hence why mineral and ship prices have generally almost doubled since the change, not quite double now things have settled down and tiericide speculation is almost over.

there was a dev blog a while ago, while it didn't explicitly say "there are more players mining" the volume of ore mined had increased, which implies there are more miners now. the jump was very noticable in the ore volume mined in high sec.



That's probably why I couldn't recall it then. Cool

In general, I think "pushed out" may have been too strong of a phrase ... though people these days seem to be more focused on ISK/hr rather than "hey, as a corp, we're gonna do this". And all that ends up doing is fracturing people within the corp.


another issue with mining is that corps have NOTHING they can offer miners. not a damn thing.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#62 - 2013-03-26 01:56:17 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:

another issue with mining is that corps have NOTHING they can offer miners. not a damn thing.



Seriously.

Well, there is the occasional Orca Boost for the player with only one toon or a still-training Orca alt.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Dave Stark
#63 - 2013-03-26 08:33:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

another issue with mining is that corps have NOTHING they can offer miners. not a damn thing.



Seriously.

Well, there is the occasional Orca Boost for the player with only one toon or a still-training Orca alt.


but of all the accounts that mine (accounts, not players) i highly doubt there are many that fall in to that category.

i know when i started i was firm and said "no, i will only have 1 account!" aaaaand now i have my own mini mining fleet. i think any one that mines quickly realises they can afford to plex multiple accounts and quite quickly ends up making their own mini fleet.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#64 - 2013-03-26 11:49:23 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

another issue with mining is that corps have NOTHING they can offer miners. not a damn thing.



Seriously.

Well, there is the occasional Orca Boost for the player with only one toon or a still-training Orca alt.


but of all the accounts that mine (accounts, not players) i highly doubt there are many that fall in to that category.

i know when i started i was firm and said "no, i will only have 1 account!" aaaaand now i have my own mini mining fleet. i think any one that mines quickly realises they can afford to plex multiple accounts and quite quickly ends up making their own mini fleet.



That's pretty much my story, although with 5 active Toons, only 2 mine and then there is the Orca Pilot.

When I began playing I soon joined "Live Tech" one of the more active high sec Industrial Corps beck in the day (broke up about a year later due to non-stop War Decs, then the Gallente Ice Interdiction hit. They were based in Brappelille after all.Smile There would be 3 mining ops a week with about 20 participants loading into 2 Orcas. But it was still a bit hard to make a living off that.

Made a lot more mining with the smaller Corp I joined after that.

Then, the Great Kernite Rush of 2010 happened and I solo-moved out to Amarr, and started doing it all myself. Then the money started rolling in within a few months.

Not really saying anything here, just describing my particular path.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Velicitia
XS Tech
#65 - 2013-03-26 12:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Dave Stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

another issue with mining is that corps have NOTHING they can offer miners. not a damn thing.



Seriously.

Well, there is the occasional Orca Boost for the player with only one toon or a still-training Orca alt.


but of all the accounts that mine (accounts, not players) i highly doubt there are many that fall in to that category.

i know when i started i was firm and said "no, i will only have 1 account!" aaaaand now i have my own mini mining fleet. i think any one that mines quickly realises they can afford to plex multiple accounts and quite quickly ends up making their own mini fleet.



Indeed ... though these days I'm finding I'm using my mining boost alt less and less for the mining boosts ... more and more for the shield boosts tho

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#66 - 2013-03-26 12:30:54 UTC
Velicitia wrote:



Indeed ... though these days I'm finding I'm using my mining boost alt less and less for the mining boosts ... more and more for the shield boosts tho



Mine does both. Especially since I use the new Salvage Drones and could remove the Salvager from the Orca and replace it with a 2nd Link.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#67 - 2013-03-27 16:27:39 UTC
I have removed some off-topic trolling from this thread.

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Ginger Barbarella
#68 - 2013-03-27 18:20:21 UTC
Trolling in GD must be getting old. Good job relocating the trolling to S&I.

Trolling: working as intended.

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Dave Stark
#69 - 2013-03-27 18:25:30 UTC
considering i've still got posting privileges, i guess it wasn't any of my posts that were removed!