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CCP, any updates on the hangar with ship spinning ?

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#21 - 2011-09-07 11:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
CCP Prism X wrote:
Right!

Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry
I hope you understand that the term 'ship spinning' means far more than that. It was the functionality and choice that came with a hanger view that we miss. The simple term ship spinning is just that, a simple term.


Edit: But we'll see what CCP does, rather than what you say tbh.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#22 - 2011-09-07 11:14:53 UTC
Thanks for giving us a update.Lol

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Sentinella
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2011-09-07 11:17:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentinella
CCP Prism X wrote:
Also Sentinella poked me through EVE Mail... ok it was mostly that

To be honest I sent an evemail to almost every CCP character. Since all threads about this have always been ignored I thought I might try a more direct approach.


CCP Prism X wrote:
Please keep in mind that I'm a Database Developer not a Project Manager. But I did go around and poke some people who wield more power than just telling people off because their queries aren't seekable.

Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry

But believe me, the people I spoke to seemed to understand the priority of this. They themselves will give you more concrete information as soon as they can, we all understand that the answer I just gave you isn't satisfactory, but it is the best I can give you.


It's better than nothing, at least it's still planned even if there is no ETA.
And thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this, it wasn't that difficult wasn't it ?
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2011-09-07 11:19:09 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Prism X
Sentinella wrote:
And thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this, it wasn't that difficult wasn't it ?


Time will tell, this isn't my first camping trip. Blink

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#25 - 2011-09-07 11:19:35 UTC
Sentinella wrote:


It's better than nothing, at least it's still planned even if there is no ETA.



It practically is nothing. Though I do respect Prism and Soundwave(he posted on old forums) for actually responding instead of ignoring like usual.

See CCP is learning.

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Sentinella
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-09-07 11:25:44 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

It practically is nothing. Though I do respect Prism and Soundwave(he posted on old forums) for actually responding instead of ignoring like usual.

See CCP is learning.


Yeh it's not the answer I hoped for but at least they are answering, it's a step in the right direction and we didn't have many of these lately.
Santonio Homes
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-09-07 11:30:21 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Right!

Seeing as I've been trying to pull my pants up lately, and start being active on the forums again, I might as well try and be useful as well rather than just attempting to be funny (Also Sentinella poked me through EVE Mail... ok it was mostly that Blink). Please keep in mind that I'm a Database Developer not a Project Manager. But I did go around and poke some people who wield more power than just telling people off because their queries aren't seekable.

Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry

But believe me, the people I spoke to seemed to understand the priority of this. They themselves will give you more concrete information as soon as they can, we all understand that the answer I just gave you isn't satisfactory, but it is the best I can give you.

The reason for this being the best I can provide is that we are currently in the middle of a planning phase. Everything is up in the air and mutable at this point so promises aren't a current possibility. All I can really do is assure you that we're not ignoring the issue nor do we intend to bury it and hopefully the final plans will start to emerge soon and we can actually give you some insight into them.

Also, I'm selling T2 Rock blueprints over in Ami. They're great for throwing back at me! Blink

P.S. Ignore my signature in this case. I'm actually trying to be helpful and informative.


Prism X doing this you just became my favourite dev, just for trying.
Vin Hellsing
#28 - 2011-09-07 11:32:13 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Right!

Seeing as I've been trying to pull my pants up lately, and start being active on the forums again, I might as well try and be useful as well rather than just attempting to be funny (Also Sentinella poked me through EVE Mail... ok it was mostly that Blink). Please keep in mind that I'm a Database Developer not a Project Manager. But I did go around and poke some people who wield more power than just telling people off because their queries aren't seekable.

Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry

But believe me, the people I spoke to seemed to understand the priority of this. They themselves will give you more concrete information as soon as they can, we all understand that the answer I just gave you isn't satisfactory, but it is the best I can give you.

The reason for this being the best I can provide is that we are currently in the middle of a planning phase. Everything is up in the air and mutable at this point so promises aren't a current possibility. All I can really do is assure you that we're not ignoring the issue nor do we intend to bury it and hopefully the final plans will start to emerge soon and we can actually give you some insight into them.

Also, I'm selling T2 Rock blueprints over in Ami. They're great for throwing back at me! Blink

P.S. Ignore my signature in this case. I'm actually trying to be helpful and informative.



Alright, thanks. I guess I can drop that particular question from the list of questions I've got going for the next Q&A. :)

Thank you for your response, Prism. *dons a monocle*
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2011-09-07 11:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zagdul
Prisim X,

I'm a very optimistic person, I rarely say "bad things", however I can say with ease that the frustrations of the pilots are not being met and there's about to be another uproar if things like the hangar view with all of it's functionality isn't implemented with haste.

I want to make VERY clear that "ship spinning" is a term used to sum up that people want the functionality of the old hangar, NOT just the nostalgic spinning of the ship.

You've forced us to looking at a door. The game doesn't work if you have multiple clients unless your computer is the latest and greatest tech on the market.

You'll hear frequently "I've got 3 clients running great with max rez etc..." These people have over 1k of graphics cards in their computer.

The average player's computers are cooking. I've got a 295 GTX that literally cooks eggs now. No lie, the temp is high enough to boil an egg. This temp is not reached in any other game. The latest Crisis engine does not strain my computer nearly as much as CQ does.

This needs to be fixed, FAST. The attitude from CCP that "we'll get to it" will quickly tick people off who don't have $1k in graphics cards in their computer and want functionality back.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Katowen
#30 - 2011-09-07 11:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Katowen
Zagdul wrote:
Prisim X,

I'm a very optimistic person, I rarely say "bad things", however I can say with ease that the frustrations of the pilots are not being met and there's about to be another uproar if things like the hangar view with all of it's functionality isn't implemented with haste.

I want to make VERY clear that "ship spinning" is a term used to sum up that people want the functionality of the old hangar, NOT just the nostalgic spinning of the ship.

You've forced us to looking at a door. The game doesn't work if you have multiple clients unless your computer is the latest and greatest tech on the market.

You'll hear frequently "I've got 3 clients running great with max rez etc..." These people have over 1k of graphics cards in their computer.

The average player's computers are cooking. I've got a 295 GTX that literally cooks eggs now. No lie, the temp is high enough to boil an egg. This temp is not reached in any other game. The latest Crisis engine does not strain my computer nearly as much as CQ does.

This needs to be fixed, FAST. The attitude from CCP that "we'll get to it" will quickly tick people off who don't have $1k in graphics cards in their computer and want functionality back.


I only run a GTS 8800 (2gig) card in my system and two clients run just fine on that, so it isn't the card...I really suspect it is your graphics settings.

Try changing the "PRESENT INTERVAL" to "Interval One". For me, this has made a huge difference on the fan speeds and how hot it runs.

Katowen
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#31 - 2011-09-07 11:45:46 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Prisim X,

I'm a very optimistic person, I rarely say "bad things", however I can say with ease that the frustrations of the pilots are not being met and there's about to be another uproar if things like the hangar view with all of it's functionality isn't implemented with haste.

I want to make VERY clear that "ship spinning" is a term used to sum up that people want the functionality of the old hangar, NOT just the nostalgic spinning of the ship.

You've forced us to looking at a door. The game doesn't work if you have multiple clients unless your computer is the latest and greatest tech on the market.

You'll hear frequently "I've got 3 clients running great with max rez etc..." These people have over 1k of graphics cards in their computer.

The average player's computers are cooking. I've got a 295 GTX that literally cooks eggs now. No lie, the temp is high enough to boil an egg. This temp is not reached in any other game. The latest Crisis engine does not strain my computer nearly as much as CQ does.

This needs to be fixed, FAST. The attitude from CCP that "we'll get to it" will quickly tick people off who don't have $1k in graphics cards in their computer and want functionality back.



this is basicly it. the frustration i feel is looking at a door with no functionality. i do not care about qc and i feel it shoudl be optional

OMG when can i get a pic here
Sader Rykane
Midnight Sentinels
#32 - 2011-09-07 11:47:10 UTC
Santonio Homes wrote:


Prism X doing this you just became my favourite dev, just for trying.


In retrospect, it's a bit sad that the bar has been set so low.
Katowen
#33 - 2011-09-07 11:48:45 UTC
Sentinella wrote:
I hate the captain's quarters and I am using "the door" but it's really bad. When will you put back the old hangar view ? It's been some time now, any ETA ?


EDIT: CCP Prism was very kind to try to find out an answer to my question:
CCP Prism X wrote:
Please keep in mind that I'm a Database Developer not a Project Manager. But I did go around and poke some people who wield more power than just telling people off because their queries aren't seekable.

Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry

But believe me, the people I spoke to seemed to understand the priority of this. They themselves will give you more concrete information as soon as they can, we all understand that the answer I just gave you isn't satisfactory, but it is the best I can give you.

The reason for this being the best I can provide is that we are currently in the middle of a planning phase. Everything is up in the air and mutable at this point so promises aren't a current possibility. All I can really do is assure you that we're not ignoring the issue nor do we intend to bury it and hopefully the final plans will start to emerge soon and we can actually give you some insight into them.


I did like the old hanger better before we "lost" it...But after thinking about it for a while now, I don't know if I want exactly that back.

What I think I would like to see instead of the "door" or automatically entering the CQ, is a modified version of the FITTING SCREEN (re-organized to fit the 'hanger view' area when you are docked into a station). IIRC, all the functionally is already there that we were use to. Then just have an option in the right-click menu to "Enter the CQ".

Again, that's my view on how we should have it re-enabled.

Katowen
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-09-07 11:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DeBingJos
Katowen wrote:

What I think I would like to see instead of the "door" or automatically entering the CQ, is a modified version of the FITTING SCREEN (re-organized to fit the 'hanger view' area when you are docked into a station). IIRC, all the functionally is already there that we were use to. Then just have an option in the right-click menu to "Enter the CQ".


This is one of the better constructive posts. +1 No to old hangar, Yes to improved hangar

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

AnzacPaul
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2011-09-07 11:57:32 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Right!



Essentially what this all boils down to is: "You will get ship-spinning back. It's only a question of fitting it into our plans.".
I know, I didn't tell you anything new. Cry


The reason for this being the best I can provide is that we are currently in the middle of a planning phase. Everything is up in the air and mutable at this point so promises aren't a current possibility. All I can really do is assure you that we're not ignoring the issue nor do we intend to bury it and hopefully the final plans will start to emerge soon and we can actually give you some insight into them.
.



Thanks for taking the time to post Prism, here is a plan that works for everyone, roleplayers, bittervets, and burning video card folk alike, please pass this suggestion on.



Dock to station > Old hanger view >Button on right hand station pane > Eject from pod to Captain's Quarters.




Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#36 - 2011-09-07 12:08:08 UTC
AnzacPaul wrote:


Dock to station > Old hanger view >Button on right hand station pane > Eject from pod to Captain's Quarters.

^^^
This. I have a comp that can handle multiple CQs(tho it does raise the temp in the room noticeably), and I *DO* enjoy sitting on my couch watching CCP TV while there are reds clogging up the system, but I shouldn't need to get out of my pod if all I am doing is reloading/reshipping/connecting to the stations power grid for a second for quick cap/shield recharge, and I shouldn't have to go into the options in advance to turn off CQ.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2011-09-07 12:18:45 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:


P.S. Ignore my signature in this case. I'm actually trying to be helpful and informative.



Best sig ever.

And thanks for stopping by, the trolls and fools may not appreciate it, but on the internet it does help to have the same message hammered into peoples heads a few dozen times. Look at the greed is good fiasco, they said the exact same thing in 3 dev blogs and people still don't get it.
Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#38 - 2011-09-07 12:24:56 UTC
AnzacPaul wrote:



Dock to station > Old hanger view >Button on right hand station pane > Eject from pod to Captain's Quarters.


This. Perfect. And most importantly, it is immersive.

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Flynn Fetladral
Tempered Aggression
Seker Matar
#39 - 2011-09-07 12:28:55 UTC
As we can be pretty mcuch 100% sure we will never get the old hanger back. I'm fairly sure what this feature will be is basically spinning your ship form the balcony. I'm guessing, as it was said to be a feature for people with rubbish graphics cards, it might be just a fixed position looking out over the hanger from the balcony where you can grab and spin the ship.

Oh and we used a little officer mods. KIDDING! We used a lot of officers mods, A LOT! Because we don’t :censored: around in low-sec.

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Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#40 - 2011-09-07 12:28:56 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
[quote=AnzacPaul]

Dock to station > Old hanger view >Button on right hand station pane > Eject from pod to Captain's Quarters.




This is how it needs to be done and how it should have been done to start with.

OMG when can i get a pic here