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Non-T3 Explo Cruisers?
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Derdrom Utida
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-27 03:47:17 UTC
What is a fun non-T3 ship for low-sec explo?

Everyone tells me to just hop into a Tengu, but I feel like I'd be wasting ISK on something that can do so much more.

I wish/hope the Gnosis' probe strength bonus makes it onto another hull, that would make me leap for joy.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#2 - 2013-03-27 03:55:33 UTC
Arbitrator - Pilgrim

Vexor - Ishtar

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#3 - 2013-03-27 03:59:15 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Arbitrator - Pilgrim

Vexor - Ishtar



Thorax/Deimos if you're a gangsta
Derdrom Utida
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-27 03:59:32 UTC
Anything Caldari?
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#5 - 2013-03-27 04:05:36 UTC
I think a ceberus could fit a standard probe

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#6 - 2013-03-27 04:06:25 UTC
Derdrom Utida wrote:
Anything Caldari?



Well....Ummm

There is the....ummm

Tengu
Derdrom Utida
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-27 04:13:32 UTC
:(

Makes me sad there are no Caldari explo boats, or even how I have to hodge-podge something together in order to do what a T3 can do.

I still find it strange that the T3 design paradigm is that it can do everything, but some roles are exclusive to the T3 bonus-wise.

I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.
Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-03-27 04:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Din Tempre
Derdrom Utida wrote:
:(

Makes me sad there are no Caldari explo boats, or even how I have to hodge-podge something together in order to do what a T3 can do.

I still find it strange that the T3 design paradigm is that it can do everything, but some roles are exclusive to the T3 bonus-wise.

I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.


I hope I am not wrong in believing we are getting T2 battlecruisers with that role in mind for Odyssey (a new myrmidon was potentially spotted).

Also, the drake would probably work as an exploration boat in a pinch. I use it for wormhole diving all the time.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#9 - 2013-03-27 04:23:29 UTC
Derdrom Utida wrote:


I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.


If that happened, then they'd be actually somewhat related to the term "recon".
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-27 05:41:29 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Derdrom Utida wrote:


I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.


If that happened, then they'd be actually somewhat related to the term "recon".

and that would make them useful.

and we can't have that now can we.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#11 - 2013-03-27 05:56:39 UTC
Well, you can still just design an caldari exploration ship yourself. Just look what you have and fit. Maybe a Drake?
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#12 - 2013-03-27 06:16:15 UTC
I know people use the Gila for exploration, though that's more Gallente than Caldari due to drones. Still, might be worth a look.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#13 - 2013-03-27 06:19:52 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Derdrom Utida wrote:


I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.


If that happened, then they'd be actually somewhat related to the term "recon".

and that would make them useful.

and we can't have that now can we.

Well I don't know about you, but mine are useful. Its just that the curse doesn't seem to have a single thing to do with reconnaissance.
Derdrom Utida
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-03-27 06:23:26 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Derdrom Utida wrote:


I wish Combat Recons were re-imagined to be explo/combat scanner ships.


If that happened, then they'd be actually somewhat related to the term "recon".

and that would make them useful.

and we can't have that now can we.

Well I don't know about you, but mine are useful. Its just that the curse doesn't seem to have a single thing to do with reconnaissance.


I dunno. I saw the Gnosis with that scan bonus and my mind exploded, totally saw potential there.

I would think it'd be cool if there were Force Recon where they focused on ewar, and Combat Recon where they're like hunter-HACs.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2013-03-27 06:54:57 UTC
Something stops you from fitting Grav cap rigs on a Combat recon and using it that way?

The scan bonus is not necessary with good skills and equipment, it's just a comfort measure.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-03-27 07:28:53 UTC
Roime wrote:
Something stops you from fitting Grav cap rigs on a Combat recon and using it that way?

The scan bonus is not necessary with good skills and equipment, it's just a comfort measure.

True, but rig slots are sometimes needed for something else. So maybe there are better uses for that role bonus instead of cyno fuel/time conservation ones (or at least make "time" part more radical)?

That said, scan strength is somewhat lesser of an issue when it comes to picking exploration ship...

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#17 - 2013-03-27 11:34:03 UTC
A hunter ship would require a covert ops cloak or it would be kinda useless, as said above scanning bonus is nice but not essential. That would be really awesome though, dropping the ewar bonus for a cloak bonus + weapons bonus and the ability CPU to fit an expanded probe launcher + a decent tank and dps would be the perfect hunters. Although we kinda have that in the Proteus and to a lesser extent the other T3 cruisers, it would be nice to have a dedicated platform.

On the topic, most of the T1 cruisers can be used as makeshift explorers in lowsec which are capable of quite alot except higher end DEDs the Vexor and Arbitrator are the better ones cause droneboats get lots of utility but the Rupture/Stabber are decent and Caldari get the short end of the stick for this because none of their dps cruisers get utility highs, but if you really want to I think you could do something with the Blackbird or even the Caracal though you'd be better off cross training or upping to a Drake.