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An apology to the civilian population of Caldari prime.
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Toluijin Chagangan
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-03-26 23:29:07 UTC
I come before you all today to offer an apology, on behalf of those within the capsuleer community who are as disgusted by the recent news as I.

While it is apparent that some within the capsuleer community are nothing but sadistic serial killers with no shred of their humanity remaining, there are those within our community who will find what I speak of today abhorrent.

Less than an hour ago, the Ishukone aid convoy bound for Caldari prime reached it's destination, This is cause for celebration, as if some within our community had their way, it would not have arrived.

An attempt was made by capsuleer forces to interdict and destroy the Ishukone aid convoy.
Should anyone know who was responsible for this attempted interdiction please name the parties involved AND CITE YOUR EVIDENCE.

Attempting to stop a convoy seeking to do nothing but aid the civilian population of a wounded world are naught but cowards and murderers. They should be treated as such.

When I left my clan to join the capsuleer training program, the eldest mystic told me one thing, this one statement is something I believe too many capsuleers have forgotten.
"Remember where your roots lie. No matter how tall and strong a tree grows, without it's roots it will wither and fall. So it is with the spirit of man. Remember us as you walk between life and death."

Seven Tribes.
One Matari People
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-03-27 02:23:12 UTC
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive would also appreciate any evidence regarding this group. This level of disregard for life is reprehensible.

~Malcolm Khross
DamnDirtyCat
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-03-29 23:58:19 UTC
I can tell you with absolute certainty that the GoonSwarm Federation was never involved in the attempted interdiction of any vital aid ships.

I can, however, tell you that the GoonSwarm Federation did attempt an interdiction of certain aid ships which were filled with Caldari warships being smuggled over Gallente borders to renew hostilities.

Personally, I was very disheartened to hear that a number of capsuleers, including members from the DED, Caldari State, and Gallente Federation, protected these transports even after being warned of their contents.

A full investigation should be done not on the heroic capsuleers of GoonSwarm who attempted to keep the peace but on the capsuleers who knowingly collaborated with Ishukone in a devious weapon smuggling operation.
Lialus Raithe
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-03-30 00:42:34 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
I can tell you with absolute certainty that the GoonSwarm Federation was never involved in the attempted interdiction of any vital aid ships.

I can, however, tell you that the GoonSwarm Federation did attempt an interdiction of certain aid ships which were filled with Caldari warships being smuggled over Gallente borders to renew hostilities.

Personally, I was very disheartened to hear that a number of capsuleers, including members from the DED, Caldari State, and Gallente Federation, protected these transports even after being warned of their contents.

A full investigation should be done not on the heroic capsuleers of GoonSwarm who attempted to keep the peace but on the capsuleers who knowingly collaborated with Ishukone in a devious weapon smuggling operation.


I hear The Gutter Press is hiring.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2013-03-30 01:15:18 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
I can tell you with absolute certainty that the GoonSwarm Federation was never involved in the attempted interdiction of any vital aid ships.

I can, however, tell you that the GoonSwarm Federation did attempt an interdiction of certain aid ships which were filled with Caldari warships being smuggled over Gallente borders to renew hostilities.

Personally, I was very disheartened to hear that a number of capsuleers, including members from the DED, Caldari State, and Gallente Federation, protected these transports even after being warned of their contents.

A full investigation should be done not on the heroic capsuleers of GoonSwarm who attempted to keep the peace but on the capsuleers who knowingly collaborated with Ishukone in a devious weapon smuggling operation.


Any evidence backing these claims would be greatly appreciated, as I am concerned by such allegations that a much needed support convoy would be used as a front for more warfare instead.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-30 01:37:46 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
A full investigation should be done not on the heroic capsuleers of GoonSwarm who attempted to keep the peace but on the capsuleers who knowingly collaborated with Ishukone in a devious weapon smuggling operation.

This is a deeply disturbing allegation with far-reaching consequences.

You do, of course, have a high standard of legitimate evidence to support such a claim, and out of the same heroism you claim to possess, you will of course provide it to the general public immediately, in full and free of charge, correct?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
DamnDirtyCat
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-03-30 03:03:49 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
This is a deeply disturbing allegation with far-reaching consequences.

You do, of course, have a high standard of legitimate evidence to support such a claim, and out of the same heroism you claim to possess, you will of course provide it to the general public immediately, in full and free of charge, correct?


GoonSwarm does not provide free information. If you'd like, I can share my personal cargo scans and comms logs, for a modest price.

However, the news is usually a source of free information.

"Additionally, the freighters were transporting three Ishukone Watch Scorpions to assist with triangulation of surface forces."

The state of Empire security is dreadful these days.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2013-03-30 03:59:36 UTC
How interesting that Goonswarm would concern itself with Federal security.

Since the information regarding those three battleships was broadcast openly, I find it hard to believe that the ships in question were not known the Federal Navy.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#9 - 2013-03-30 04:39:33 UTC
Were these battleships also furnished with significant weapons, or sensor suites for CnC, were ground arms shipped, Mercenary clone vats?
Given the capsuleer presence in the system, I hardly think a mere 3 Battleships equipped for CnC that were announced count as 'Arms Smuggling'. Do you have any further proof of illegal activities beyond the press release?
DamnDirtyCat
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-03-30 04:45:17 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Were these battleships also furnished with significant weapons, or sensor suites for CnC, were ground arms shipped, Mercenary clone vats?
Given the capsuleer presence in the system, I hardly think a mere 3 Battleships equipped for CnC that were announced count as 'Arms Smuggling'. Do you have any further proof of illegal activities beyond the press release?


My cargo scans and logs, as I said, are available for a modest price. I assure you, the price is worth it.
Lialus Raithe
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-03-30 11:43:13 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
My cargo scans and logs, as I said, are available for a modest price. I assure you, the price is worth it.


Transparent. You came here to defend the GoonSwarm from allegations against them and now you seek to make a tidy profit before you'll release any "proof" of your claims, the proof being logs that can easily be altered to begin with.

If there were a problem with the cargo, I am quite positive it would have been pointed out already by official sources given that everything underwent a customs scan and further inspection upon delivery.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-03-30 11:47:49 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
My cargo scans and logs, as I said, are available for a modest price. I assure you, the price is worth it.

Where is your heroism, boy? Surely if you feel the security of the Federation and its people is in such dire straits, you'd give those scans for free out of the kindness of your heart.

Goonswarm are the "heroes," after all!

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
DamnDirtyCat
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-03-30 18:13:28 UTC
The fact that both of you are still replying means neither of you scanned the cargo yourself. I'd like to think that a clean conscience is worth anything to Fed-Heads, but maybe I was wrong. My offer stands if you're still interested in what else was shipped along with those Scorpions.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#14 - 2013-03-30 19:52:35 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
The fact that both of you are still replying means neither of you scanned the cargo yourself. I'd like to think that a clean conscience is worth anything to Fed-Heads, but maybe I was wrong. My offer stands if you're still interested in what else was shipped along with those Scorpions.


You are not a verifiable or trustworthy source, sir. Your information is barely worth the quanta upon which it is written. I apologize.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#15 - 2013-03-30 20:03:14 UTC
You failed, Goonswarm.

Katrina Oniseki
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-03-30 20:05:17 UTC
DamnDirtyCat wrote:
The fact that both of you are still replying means neither of you scanned the cargo yourself.

Because I don't habitually fit a cargo scanner to my combat ships, wasting a mid-slot that could be used for a module with a much larger range of tactical applications. The only reason one ever fits a cargo scanner to a ship is to determine whether a ship is carrying something of sufficient value to justify blowing it up. In the overwhelmingly vast majority of potential combat situations I find myself in, the contents of a ship's cargo bay is either already known to me or an irrelevant factor in my decision whether or not to blow it up. I'm a soldier, not a looter.

DamnDirtyCat wrote:
I'd like to think that a clean conscience is worth anything to Fed-Heads, but maybe I was wrong. My offer stands if you're still interested in what else was shipped along with those Scorpions.

No, see, here's how it works, buddy: you make an assertion and then you provide evidence to support your assertion and then we decide whether you're telling the truth or not. Of course, free speech is a cornerstone of the IGS and if you really want, you can say something else, such as "I've got something really important to show you that completely contradicts the official story and the observations of nearly every pilot present - pay me a hundred million ISK and I'll show it to you, honest!" However, if you do, everyone's going to think that you're either lying or mad, and given that you're a member of an organisation well known for considering literally any action against people who are not part of it justifiable, public confidence in you is going to be pretty low.

You want to be taken seriously? Show us the evidence, or shut up. You don't want to be taken seriously? I can completely understand that, but don't act like you're some misunderstood hero and expect people to throw money at you. That isn't how things work around here.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.