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New Chronicle: After The Fall

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Oscha Esservic
Theta1
#81 - 2013-03-26 05:00:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Oscha Esservic
Most EVE Lore is hyperbole. It's fun but a little bit silly.

This is not like most EVE lore. Yes it stumbles a bit in the end but one of my favourites so far.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#82 - 2013-03-26 06:13:19 UTC
I am certainly an exceptionally handsome specimen of the Gallentean race, but I do not wish to be associated with this murderous fellow. Even on Facebook Shocked

I wouldn't harm anyone Bear

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Nriz Barol
1IL
#83 - 2013-03-26 07:38:40 UTC
I liked it a nice short story to read, one small thing though

' Also, I got a dog, who I quickly grew fond of but somehow never got around to naming.'

then later on

'That day I made my way into the city, asking around, looking for him, shouting his name.'

then there is the slightly confusing thing about his neighbours which has been mentioned on the thread before

' My neighbors on both sides disappeared in the space of one night.' (neighbours)

and later

'The houses to either side of me had never been occupied,'
SilentStryder
#84 - 2013-03-26 08:42:37 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP Abraxas wrote:
Destroyer of Souls wrote:
Love those continuity errors.
Argh. Yes. These'll be fixed forthwith.



Another one

"My neighbors on both sides disappeared in the space of one night."

"The houses to either side of me had never been occupied,"

Perhaps "The houses to either side of me had never been re-occupied,"

And a bit of a hole: We are never given any indication he had the capability to kill someone. Weapons? Never mentioned. Training? Never mentioned. Brute strength? Hes and old man. In good shape, but still.... For example you could have mentioned near the beginning when he was clearing the back yard for a garden that he had a tool that cut away the brush with almost no effort. That would also solve the "How did he haul a body back?" issue. He did not, just an arm or a leg.



The Dog could have killed as well as the old man, it said he had let the dog attack people bothering him
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#85 - 2013-03-26 08:50:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Snowflake Tem
Ramius Decimus wrote:
So CCP Falcon is Gallentean. Figures. No wonder all the news articles were so slanted (with many errors, like "Caldari Provincial Directorate", which doesn't exist and should have read "Caldari Providence Directorate" and the Caldari Navy commanding officer is really Admiral Morda Engsten and not Mininela Erinen, who's name still appears in-game info because some devs were too lazy to keep up with their own lore).

Could we please get the Caldari side of these events? You know, one that doesn't paint us all as monsters for taking back our own homeland. Or a more objective story would suffice.

Also, when it comes to the news articles, all we ever see are ones from The Scope. What about articles from Echelon Entertainment or the Amarrian news service? Need more variety, out of fairness, devs!


Since when has New Eden been fair? It is as beautiful and dangerous as anyone who captures your heart, takes your time and liberates your money. Heth got his pet Titan into Luminaire via treachery; you are monsters. Prove me wrong.
ColonelNick
Providence Guard
#86 - 2013-03-26 09:49:21 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
Ramius Decimus wrote:
So CCP Falcon is Gallentean. Figures. No wonder all the news articles were so slanted (with many errors, like "Caldari Provincial Directorate", which doesn't exist and should have read "Caldari Providence Directorate" and the Caldari Navy commanding officer is really Admiral Morda Engsten and not Mininela Erinen, who's name still appears in-game info because some devs were too lazy to keep up with their own lore).

Could we please get the Caldari side of these events? You know, one that doesn't paint us all as monsters for taking back our own homeland. Or a more objective story would suffice.

Also, when it comes to the news articles, all we ever see are ones from The Scope. What about articles from Echelon Entertainment or the Amarrian news service? Need more variety, out of fairness, devs!


Since when has New Eden been fair? It is as beautiful and dangerous as anyone who captures your heart, takes your time and liberates your money. Heth got his pet Titan into Luminaire via treachery; you are monsters. Prove me wrong.




You clearly don't remember the Malkanen incident.

The Federation fired first, un-provoked, with a Nyx-class carrier ramming it under command of Admiral Noir into the Ishukone HQ. So dont talk to us about treachery, Mrs. Tem.

ColonelNick, CEO, Providence Guard, Callsign: "Codeine"
Ramius Decimus
Daitengu Fleet
#87 - 2013-03-26 09:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramius Decimus
Snowflake Tem wrote:

Since when has New Eden been fair? It is as beautiful and dangerous as anyone who captures your heart, takes your time and liberates your money. Heth got his pet Titan into Luminaire via treachery; you are monsters. Prove me wrong.


Not talking about New Eden. Talking about EVE in-game news being at least impartial or better yet there being several outlets of news. The Caldari news services would be filled with propaganda and it's own slant towards the other nations of course. However the keyword is it's own.

So, according to you, we are monsters for using the only thing possible to get OUR homeworld back? Interesting. Especially since very few Gallenteans were harmed in the liberation of Caldari Prime, as per Executor Heth's orders. Now, if he were an insane tyrant bent on blood, why would he order such a thing in the first place? Most (especially recent) deaths of Gallentean civillians living on Caldari Prime were due to terrorist actions that cost even more Caldari lives. So who's more blood thirsty now? I doubt the armada would have stopped Gallenteans wanting to leave and join their countrymen.

However, I do understand the strategic implication of wanting the Gallenteans there. Was good assurance that the Federal Navy wouldn't tear our world away from us again. Unfortunately, as bad as keeping those people practically hostage, it was the only way to ensure the return of our birth right and the rights of Caldarians living as second class citizens on their own fatherland. Perhaps if Roden agreed to a ceasefire and non-hostile pact over Caldari Prime space in exchange for his citizens, that would've been a perfect solution that would've prevented the recent tragedies.

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90th Fleet

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Veronica Aurilen
Doomheim
#88 - 2013-03-26 11:32:32 UTC
very nice chronicle. love this stuff.

Now if we could only read them on the screens in our CQ.Shocked
stoicfaux
#89 - 2013-03-26 12:00:03 UTC
ColonelNick wrote:

You clearly don't remember the Malkanen incident.

The Federation fired first, un-provoked, with a Nyx-class carrier ramming it under command of Admiral Noir into the Ishukone HQ. So dont talk to us about treachery, Mrs. Tem.


You're wrong but right. The Admiral was actually "The Broker" who clone jumped into a copy of the Admiral's body, killed the Admiral and then crashed the ship into the station. The Nyx would have bounced off of the station's shields, but the Broker sabotaged the shield on the station section that the Nyx crashed into. So you're wrong about the Federation shooting first.

However, that information wasn't public, and I doubt the public would have believed that someone could clone jump into different bodies to impersonate people, so to the uninformed public, it appeared as if the Feds fired first, so your statement is "correct."


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Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2013-03-26 13:09:42 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Tasiv Deka wrote:
Ill read it over my lunch break but i have to ask is this going to be as biased against Caldari as ccp is? (i know its a gallente POV but still...)

I mean this isnt some in character rant or anything but seriously its kind of irritating seeing Caldari (and Amarr) get the short end of the stick on quite a few things.

still though i'll read it and hopefully it isnt too biased

It didn't seem biased to me.

If anything it seems to cast the Caldari in a better light than the Gallente.




Like i said in my post i had not read it yet i was just asking... however i do have to agree that after finally getting around to reading that for once the Caldari weren't portrayed in a terrible light

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Lallante
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#91 - 2013-03-26 13:56:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lallante
Its interesting to see such a blatently RL political chronicle.

Or are the references to a returning original owners of some geographical area seizing the land of its recent owners, herding them into walled off ghetto areas behind a security wall with bare-minimum amenities so that "settlers" can move into the land that was formerly theirs completely coincidental?

Also how has noone else seen or pointed this out?
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#92 - 2013-03-26 14:20:59 UTC
It's crystal clear that guards are burried in the garden. Which is fine by me :-)

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
Lallante
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#93 - 2013-03-26 14:27:51 UTC
Goran Konjich wrote:
It's crystal clear that guards are burried in the garden. Which is fine by me :-)


What? Not its not. They were clearly other Gallente (hence the digging the garden up and the Caldari guards approving of it).

How can they have been the Caldari guards if he started "gardening" again BEFORE the Caldari invasion?
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#94 - 2013-03-26 15:10:04 UTC
This isn't the IGS lol.
Eko'mo
Eko Research Institute
#95 - 2013-03-26 18:03:16 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
ColonelNick wrote:

You clearly don't remember the Malkanen incident.

The Federation fired first, un-provoked, with a Nyx-class carrier ramming it under command of Admiral Noir into the Ishukone HQ. So dont talk to us about treachery, Mrs. Tem.


You're wrong but right. The Admiral was actually "The Broker" who clone jumped into a copy of the Admiral's body, killed the Admiral and then crashed the ship into the station. The Nyx would have bounced off of the station's shields, but the Broker sabotaged the shield on the station section that the Nyx crashed into. So you're wrong about the Federation shooting first.

However, that information wasn't public, and I doubt the public would have believed that someone could clone jump into different bodies to impersonate people, so to the uninformed public, it appeared as if the Feds fired first, so your statement is "correct."





I think they were roleplaying bud. From an RP point of view only a few people in the galaxy know for sure about the broker. To everyone else he is just a myth or a legend. So as you say it's probably still public opinion that the Gallente kicked it off, or 'A' Gallente, Admiral Noir in particular.

Not sure where you got the station shields part from, not in the book?

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-03-26 20:07:48 UTC
Eko'mo wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
ColonelNick wrote:

You clearly don't remember the Malkanen incident.

The Federation fired first, un-provoked, with a Nyx-class carrier ramming it under command of Admiral Noir into the Ishukone HQ. So dont talk to us about treachery, Mrs. Tem.


You're wrong but right. The Admiral was actually "The Broker" who clone jumped into a copy of the Admiral's body, killed the Admiral and then crashed the ship into the station. The Nyx would have bounced off of the station's shields, but the Broker sabotaged the shield on the station section that the Nyx crashed into. So you're wrong about the Federation shooting first.

However, that information wasn't public, and I doubt the public would have believed that someone could clone jump into different bodies to impersonate people, so to the uninformed public, it appeared as if the Feds fired first, so your statement is "correct."





I think they were roleplaying bud. From an RP point of view only a few people in the galaxy know for sure about the broker. To everyone else he is just a myth or a legend. So as you say it's probably still public opinion that the Gallente kicked it off, or 'A' Gallente, Admiral Noir in particular.

Not sure where you got the station shields part from, not in the book?


No, the shield bit is in the book.

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stoicfaux
#97 - 2013-03-26 22:37:41 UTC
Lallante wrote:
Its interesting to see such a blatently RL political chronicle.

Or are the references to a returning original owners of some geographical area seizing the land of its recent owners, herding them into walled off ghetto areas behind a security wall with bare-minimum amenities so that "settlers" can move into the land that was formerly theirs completely coincidental?

Also how has noone else seen or pointed this out?

Walls? We didn't wall off the Indian reservations.

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TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2013-03-26 23:25:49 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Walls? We didn't wall off the Indian reservations.


Silly yank, the whole world doesn't spin around your belly. To compare the story to americans vs indians would be impossible as gallente(indians?) were not the original people living in caldari prime(north america). Caldari (the settlers) confining people were.

However it applies to Israel(Caldari) vs Palestine(Gallente). You know the promised land of scriptures(caldari prime, lost for generations under oppressive rule) taken away, returned after years of oppression by military conquest thanks to legal loopholes and fighting bloody struggle to keep it against "terrorist" attacks of people just wanting to live free in land they occupied for short while. That is if you want to draw real life similarities of any kind, it's Eve lore that loans bits and pieces from rl and spins them to best suit itself.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#99 - 2013-03-27 00:24:03 UTC
I still miss the old artwork for the Eve Chronicles. At least a screen shot would be an upgrade...

... there's a saying where I'm from. Quality over Quantity. Pushing out fewer chronicles with great visual artwork is superior to pushing out just more chronicles.

yk
Kougo Anki
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2013-03-27 03:16:54 UTC
Destroyer of Souls wrote:
Quote:
Also, I got a dog, who I quickly grew fond of but somehow never got around to naming.

Quote:
That day I made my way into the city, asking around, looking for him, shouting his name.


Quote:
I rushed to get a ladder and climbed up on my roof

Quote:
I slowly crawled on my hands and knees until I got to the stairs, which I went down one careful step at a time until I reached the garden.


Love those continuity errors.





this. couldnt agree with you more. and btw ccp, i was considering buying the EvE books (Templat One, etc...) to plus myself into the game. Hope the author of those books are better than this one. =P