Ships & Modules

The following thread is for everyone to get a general idea on how to fit your barges properly for defense. Some are fairly balanced between efficiency and defense. However, the main interest of this thread is to provide DEFENSIVE fits against ganking.

Please do not complain about the prices of anything, these are suggestions, no one is forcing you to do anything and as such, if you do not like an idea, try to understand that you are not obligated to do any of this for yourself.

You MAY require a few pieces of training and possibly a few implants to fit some of the barges I am going to share with you, to their max potential:

Skil Trains:

Electronics Level 5: 5% Bonus to ship CPU output per skill level.
Engineering Level 5: 5% Bonus to ship's powergrid output per skill level.
Shield Upgrades Level 5: 5% reduction is power grid needs for modules requiring shield upgrades.

Implants:

Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1 (Boosts perception by 3, Provides +1.5% powergrid bonus, Provides +1.5% capacitor amount bonus, Implant set bonus: 50%. (Also great for tengu's, battleships, any ship really.)

Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2 (Boost intelligence by 3, Provides +1.5% CPU bonus, Provides +1.5% capacitor recharge
Implant set bonus: 50%. (Also great for tengu's, battleships, any ship really.)

Zainou 'Gypsy' Electionic EE-604 (4% bonus to the CPU output.)

The Mackinaw fit below, dubbed 'Perfect Mackinaw' requires a 'Squire' Engineering EG-606, for the Harvester upgrade. I woulden't reccomend it, but for those craving perfection in a barge, it is the only way.

Certain Meta level 4 modules like Medium Canyon and Medium Regoliton shields can be essential to providing the neccessary CPU and powergrid you need to fit these barges.

High resistances account for the vast majority of damage reduction. IE. If a ganker does 1000 kinetic damage in his first volly and you have 86% Kinetic resistance, like I do, then it reduces his damage to 140 per volley and with a contingent of medium shield maintenance drones being used, from another barge near by, it almost completely neutralizes his damage.

Universal Mackinaw

EHP: 36,621
Shields: 8,282
Shield Resistances: 71/77/83/67
Armor resistances: 66/45/36/23
Hull Resistances: 58/58/58/58

High Power
2x Ice Harvesters

Medium Power
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II
1x EM Ward Field II

Low Power
2x Power Diagnostic System II (Adds +10% to Shields)
1x Internal Force Field Array

Rig Slots
2x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I (2 II if you can afford it, adds an extra 10% to shields)

Your resistances will be around 71/77/83/67. 8282 Shields. Roughly 36,621 EHP. However, all those things are relative based on your training, of course, those stat read outs are level 5 for everything involved. With T2 Orca boosts, it lands 9110 shields, and resistances 75/80/85/74 with a total of 45,808 EHP.

There are no incorrect fits for barges, only stronger and weaker. In the following thread you will see a great deal of barge suggestions, be aware that fitting items like survey scanners, mining laser upgrades, shield boosters (should be for null sec only), and drone augmentors, will greatly reduce vital defenses, and create chinks in your defenses that gankers will try to exploit once they have scanned you. Also, if you stack invulnerability shields, it has a nasty draw back. Better to use active shield hardeners.

Please keep in mind, if you do any calculations about ship damage VS barges, to include the potential damage reduction of the barges resistances. Many of these barges, especially with access to Orca boosts, have an excess of 70% to 86% resistances across the board. Do not leave that fact out, it is misleading, and will lead others to mistrust your opinion.

Also, beware of misquoting, misdirection, and any of the individuals criticizing these fits, as they will misinform, condescend, and whine, while offering no alternatives or lesser options, there is a great deal of that going on in this thread. If your wondering why GOONSWARM, the creators and sponsers of HULKAGGEDON don't want you to see this, and angrily attack it, take a wild guess. Beware of individuals who trash these fits and question what they write.

Also, please be aware of the staggering number of facts and information they leave out, as well as telling you that every barge can be blown up (of course it can.) They will call them fail fits, present obsurd situations, and other slanderous things with no explanation why. They're are a vast number of presumptions, insinuations, and angry teeth gnashing ahead, a sure sign, i've done a great job bringing this information to you. Enjoy. =-)

Perfect Mackinaw

***Requires Inherent 'Squire' Engineering EG-606, for Harvester upgrade***

EHP: 35,418
Shields: 7,371
Shield Resistances: 71/72/79/68
Armor Resistances: 73/56/50/39
Hull Resistances: 60/60/60/60

High Power
2x Ice/ore Harvesters II

Medium Power
1x Medium 'Canyon' Shield Extender or Medium Regolith F-S9
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II
1x EM Ward Field II

Low Power
1x Adaptive Nano Plating II
1x Ice/ore harvester Upgrade II or Power Diagnostic System II instead (if you lack the implant.)
1x Internal Force Field Array

Rig Slot
2X Medium Core Defense Field Extender I/II

High Resistances are the key to fortifying and having inpenetrable defenses. Do not use raw shield HP for defense.

Mackinaw - Cheap and Tough.

EHP: 29,855
Shields: 6,142
Shield Resistances: 67/76/82/76
Armor Resistances: 66/45/36/23
Hull Resistances: 58/58/58/58

High Power
2x Ice/ore Harvesters II

Medium Power
1x Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
1x Thermic Dissipation Amplifier I
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1x Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I

Low Power
2x Ice harvester upgrades
1x Internal Force field Array

Rig Slot
1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I/II
1x Medium Anti-Em screen Reinforcer I/II

A damage controll II is always an asset on a barge, I would recommend fitting one if you can afford it CPU wise.

Universal Mackinaw

High Power
2x Ice Harvesters

Medium Power
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field I
1x EM Ward Field II

Low Power
2x Power Diagnostic System II (Adds +10% to Shields)
1x Internal force field array

Rig Slots
2x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I (2 II if you can afford it, adds an extra 10% to shields)

Your resistances will be around 71/77/83/67. 8282 Shields. Roughly 36,621 EHP. However, all those things are relative based on your training, of course, those stat read outs are level 5 for everything involved. With T2 Orca boosts, it lands 9110 shields, and resistances 75/80/85/74 with a total of 45,808 EHP, not to mention the armor resistances, and 58/58/58/58 for the hull.

None expensive fits further down in the post.

Mackinaw- The Beast

EHP: 37,162
Shields: 7,739
Shield Resistances: 71/72/79/68
Armor Resistances: 73/56/50/39
Hull Resistances: 60/60/60/60

High Power
2x Ice/ore Harvesters II

Medium Power
1x Medium 'Canyon' Shield Extender or Medium Regolith F-S9
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II
1x EM Ward Field II

Low Power
1x Adaptive Nano Plating II
1x Power Diagnostic System II (5% extra to Shields)
1x Internal Force Field Array

THIS IS ONLY IF YOU HAVE CASH TO BURN, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED.

Best Mack You will Ever own. ***Requires Zainou 'Gypsy' Electionic EE-605 ***

High Power
2x ORE Ice Harvesters (Irrelevant)

Medium Power
1x Gistum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
1x Supplemental EM Ward Amplifier
1x Supplemental Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
1x Medium 'Canyon' Shield Extender

Low Power
1x Ice Harvester Upgrade II
2x Ingenii Ice Harvester Upgrade

Rig Slot
1x Medium Ice harvester Accelerator
1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender.

Requires all items I listed in the beginning post, including a Zainou 'Gypsy' Electionic EE-605 (absolutely essential.)

Venture

High Power
x2 Miner II
x1 Salvager

Medium Power
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1x EM Ward Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Low Power
1x 200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Rig Slots
1x small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer.
1x small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer.
1x small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer.

x2 Hobgoblins.

(THIS FIT IS FOR YOU IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE GENOLUTION IMPLANTS SET AND A Inherent Implants 'squire engineering EG-605 implant)

Venture

High Power
2x Miner II
1x Salvager

Medium Power
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1x EM Ward Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Low Power
1x 'Bastion' 400mm Reinforced Steel (Implants needed)

Rig Slots
1x Small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer I
1x Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
1x Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

2x Hobgoblin

Industrials.

Noctis

EHP: 26,809
Shield HP: 5,471
Armor Hp: 4,092
Hull HP: 4,600
Shield Resistances: 46/57/68/73
Armor Resistances: 58/45/45/24
Hull Resistances: 60/60/60/60

High Power
4x small tractor beams
4x salvager I/II

Medium Power
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Large Shield Extender II

Low Power
1x 400mm reinforced steel plates II
1x Damge Control II
1x Reinforced Bulkheads II

Rig Slots
2x Medium Salvage Tackle I/II


Orca

High Power
1x Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II
1x Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
1x Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II

Medium Power
1x Large Shield Extender II
1x EM Ward Fiel II
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II

Low Power
1x Damage Control II
1x Reinforced Bulheads II

Rig Slots
2x Large Cargohold Optimizations
1x Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer


Mammoth (For Planetary Transport and afk mining)

EHP: 15,242
Shield HP: 6,643
Shield Resistances: 49/59/69/65

High Power
1x Miner II
1x Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Power
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
4x Medium Shield Extenders II

Low Power
2x Power Diagnostic System II
2x Expanded Cargohold

Rig Slots
1x Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer
1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer
1x Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer

Goonswarm didn't create hulkageddon. Get your fact straight.

We're not doing this again, OP. Get out.

Your hulk now takes 2 catalysts to gank instead of one. Yays.

Barges will have tank when CCP gives them one. Until then, you're can't be a special snowflake.

If somebody suicide ganks a Venture, just laugh at them. You're really better off fitting an MLU in that low slot.

In general, a damage control is always cool, but please don't mix armor and shield tanking on the same ship.



Here's an example fit of a mackinaw with 31.2k EHP without any expensive modules or implants, and without sacrificing too much yield. Requires decent fitting skills due to high CPU requirement, but you could substitute some Tech2 for lower meta if needed.

[Mackinaw, Tanky Miner]

Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Survey Scanner I

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Mining Drone I x5
Hobgoblin II x5


In the end, if somebody really wants to gank you, they will just bring more ships. What you want is just enough tank to make it unprofitable for solo gankers.

So I was playing in eft and i decided to test your skiff fit because that's what I fly on my miners.



So this was my starting point:

Implants:
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Zainou 'Gypsy' Electionic EE-604

High Power
Ice Harvester II


Em Ward Amplifier II
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II


Rig Slot
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM screen Reinforcer I

These are the modules I'm changing, according to your advise:
1 medium power
2 low power

First test:
Medium Power
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Low Power
Ice Harvester Upgrade I
Ice Harvester Upgrade I

So this fits. It actually only needs the EE 601 to fit, but the implants you listed were general.

Second test:
Medium Power
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Low Power
Ice Harvester Upgrade I
Ice Harvester Upgrade I

This fits, but we're up to EE 603 to fit. Still within range of what you listed.

Third test:
Medium Power
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Low Power
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade I

This fits, but you need the EE 605 to fit it. Beyond what you listed.

Third test:
Medium Power
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Low Power
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade I

Only fits with the EE 606 implant.

Anything that includes 2 ice harvester upgrade II's will not fit regardless of implants. Unless you lowball your own post it's misleading about what you can fit on a skiff. Using that as a suggestion is bad, and for someone running for CSM 2013 you should be ashamed about posting it.