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EvE Online: Odyssey!!!

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#401 - 2013-03-26 09:57:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

It's sad when people pretend to have psychic powers.


Fun facts about psyhic powers:

Experience is not a psychic power.

Sad but true.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#402 - 2013-03-26 10:04:31 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

It's sad when people pretend to have psychic powers.


Fun facts about psyhic powers:

Experience is not a psychic power.

Sad but true.

Experience is still just guesswork based on observation, no matter how prettily you wrap it up.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#403 - 2013-03-26 10:22:54 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

It's sad when people pretend to have psychic powers.


Fun facts about psyhic powers:

Experience is not a psychic power.

Sad but true.

Experience is still just guesswork based on observation, no matter how prettily you wrap it up.


That boldened part is the important one.

I don't actually believe that eve'll become the happy lalaland theme park, but until it's actually there I'll better expect the worst. No bad surprises on my side, the last 10 years of deveopment in games have been bad enough without the help of misplaced optimism fueled by bland, meaningless marketing phrases.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#404 - 2013-03-26 10:47:20 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Setaceous wrote:

Experience is still just guesswork based on observation, no matter how prettily you wrap it up.


That boldened part is the important one.

I don't actually believe that eve'll become the happy lalaland theme park, but until it's actually there I'll better expect the worst. No bad surprises on my side, the last 10 years of deveopment in games have been bad enough without the help of misplaced optimism fueled by bland, meaningless marketing phrases.

The funny thing about observation is that everyone observes the same thing in a myriad of different ways. The thing being observed changes depending on who is looking at it.

And human memory is a fickle thing, unless you're an exceptional individual, you never remember anything exactly as it happened. The further away you get from the time the memory was created, the less accurate it becomes. We tend to focus on on exceptionally bad or exceptionally good things as well and those things become the focus of the memory.

I'm sure I made some sort of point in there somewhere, but it's late and I'm tired...so maybe not.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#405 - 2013-03-26 11:51:01 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

It's sad when people pretend to have psychic powers.


Fun facts about psyhic powers:

Experience is not a psychic power.

Sad but true.



So you are saying you have experienced game features and mechanics that have not been introduced yet ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#406 - 2013-03-26 11:52:18 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
the last 10 years of deveopment in games have been bad enough without the help of misplaced optimism fueled by bland, meaningless marketing phrases.



Then why in God's name are you still subscribed? Enjoy misery and mental torture for some reason ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#407 - 2013-03-26 11:53:48 UTC
Setaceous wrote:

And human memory is a fickle thing, unless you're an exceptional individual, you never remember anything exactly as it happened. The further away you get from the time the memory was created, the less accurate it becomes.



I don't think I'll forget that rusty prison-room and rusty Door anytime soon LolLol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#408 - 2013-03-26 11:59:04 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
the last 10 years of deveopment in games have been bad enough without the help of misplaced optimism fueled by bland, meaningless marketing phrases.



Then why in God's name are you still subscribed? Enjoy misery and mental torture for some reason ?


I didn't say "the development of eve" didn't I?

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#409 - 2013-03-26 12:01:20 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
the last 10 years of deveopment in games have been bad enough without the help of misplaced optimism fueled by bland, meaningless marketing phrases.



Then why in God's name are you still subscribed? Enjoy misery and mental torture for some reason ?


I didn't say "the development of eve" didn't I?




Your posting itself does not imply that you were excepting EVE out of your statement.

Just going on experience, here.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#410 - 2013-03-26 12:13:22 UTC
Odyssey is going to be a another half-arsed expansion with broken features floating around for years to come until CCP decides it is time for the little things 2.0..

I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.

  • Richard (http://www.lfgcomic.com/)
Sylvia Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#411 - 2013-03-26 12:35:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sylvia Nardieu
Onyx Nyx wrote:
Odyssey is going to be a another half-arsed expansion with broken features floating around for years to come until CCP decides it is time for the little things 2.0..

Come on, a bit of optimism wouldn't hurt. Yes there have been bad times, but you can't say that last few patches or game itterations (aka. expansions) have not sorted some issues out and re-vitalised the game a bit. I'd say that CCP is kind of on a right path, so let's hope they stay on it.
Also, Mittani had this conversation on tweeter:

Quote:
The Mittani ‏@TheMittani 23 Mar
So, Odyssey. What's actually in this sucker? Wild speculation edition:
*snip*

Erlendur
‏@erlendur
@TheMittani "'anchor' for an entire expansion": Think of it more as a theme, Apocrypha-style (but keep in mind it had all dev teams at CCP).


So if I get this right (might not be) this could be a nice, refreshing expansion with some fixes or itterations of them for old issues (resources, pos, ship balance etc.) and decent amount of new content (which hopefully won't break anything). I doubt that anyone would be unhappy if Odyssey turns out to be a mini Apocrypha Big smile.
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#412 - 2013-03-26 13:10:36 UTC
Tiger Armani wrote:
I would like to see some modularity in all ships not just in T3s.

Maybe just option two swap one high slot to medium etc. That way you couldn't always exactly know what fits enemy is using.


I like this idea, being able to 'downgrade' 1 slot, could make for some rather interesting challenges :)
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#413 - 2013-03-26 13:30:59 UTC
Pelea Ming wrote:
Tiger Armani wrote:
I would like to see some modularity in all ships not just in T3s.

Maybe just option two swap one high slot to medium etc. That way you couldn't always exactly know what fits enemy is using.


I like this idea, being able to 'downgrade' 1 slot, could make for some rather interesting challenges :)


Yeah sure, gonne be fun.
(CCP 'Fozzie' rage quits).
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#414 - 2013-03-26 13:34:52 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Pelea Ming wrote:
Tiger Armani wrote:
I would like to see some modularity in all ships not just in T3s.

Maybe just option two swap one high slot to medium etc. That way you couldn't always exactly know what fits enemy is using.


I like this idea, being able to 'downgrade' 1 slot, could make for some rather interesting challenges :)


Yeah sure, gonne be fun.
(CCP 'Fozzie' rage quits).


lol, he'd be back within a week, rant for awhile, then start having fun with it himself :P
Erehwon Rorschach
LoGisTicAl ERr0R
#415 - 2013-03-26 13:39:30 UTC
fix OGB? Lol as if.

Because your mum just couldn't say no.
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#416 - 2013-03-26 13:55:19 UTC
Erehwon Rorschach wrote:
fix OGB? Lol as if.


CCP's already said what they will do with OGBs if / when they do make any changes
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#417 - 2013-03-26 15:10:24 UTC
Tesal wrote:
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso wrote:
some video of the Pax event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo0vbusruT0&list=HL1364111344

theme is exploration..

around 2:00 Goodbye Passive income

ShockedCoolLolLol

directed at CFC & HBC I guess?


He mentioned an industry re-balance for null.




That entire video is proof that CCP does listen to the player base.

Oh and the tears that will come from this expansion if they shake up the alliances resource-wise.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#418 - 2013-03-26 15:14:46 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Oh and the tears that will come from this expansion if they shake up the alliances resource-wise.


Yummy emo tears, I'm rather looking forward to null sec getting shaken up yet again, always fun to watch the fireworks when that happens :P
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#419 - 2013-03-26 16:19:01 UTC
Sylvia Nardieu wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
Odyssey is going to be a another half-arsed expansion with broken features floating around for years to come until CCP decides it is time for the little things 2.0..

Come on, a bit of optimism wouldn't hurt. Yes there have been bad times, but you can't say that last few patches or game itterations (aka. expansions) have not sorted some issues out and re-vitalised the game a bit. I'd say that CCP is kind of on a right path, so let's hope they stay on it.
Also, Mittani had this conversation on tweeter:

Quote:
The Mittani ?@TheMittani 23 Mar
So, Odyssey. What's actually in this sucker? Wild speculation edition:
*snip*

Erlendur
?@erlendur
@TheMittani "'anchor' for an entire expansion": Think of it more as a theme, Apocrypha-style (but keep in mind it had all dev teams at CCP).


So if I get this right (might not be) this could be a nice, refreshing expansion with some fixes or itterations of them for old issues (resources, pos, ship balance etc.) and decent amount of new content (which hopefully won't break anything). I doubt that anyone would be unhappy if Odyssey turns out to be a mini Apocrypha Big smile.


What is optimism? Can you murder people with it? Can you enslave people with it? Oh, you can.. oh jolly good!

After the Revelations-expansions, I seriously began questioning their ability to deliver anything but broken features that literally beg you to exploit them should the opportunity present itself (like the case of the LP FW exploit) and if it is not something that makes CCP throw themselves on the batphone, it is going to take them years to fully address these exploits.

And don't get me started on more details about Odyssey slipping out at fanfest. Fanfest has been a ******* snorefest the last four years.

I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.

  • Richard (http://www.lfgcomic.com/)
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#420 - 2013-03-26 16:21:46 UTC
We shall see Straight