EVE General Discussion

One second, surely - in keeping with the time hacks on the servers.
The point is, when you'd d-scanning for intruders, and you're facing a skilled combat-prober, D-Scan might never save you. You may never see the enemy until they land on your grid. And D-scan range is somewhat limilted

But a cloaky scanning alt can cover the entire system with ease unless it's one of those truly humongous 128-AU monsters - Even then, your alt can cover a very large globe around you - And can plausibly cover it such that the intruders may not even know they've been detected. They set up to scan, but you're already ahead of their knowledge curve, and have less to do - all you have to do is vacate, cloak, or safe-up. They may find some wrecks in a partially-completed site, but where are you? They certainly don't know!


OK, so you've got to ping the probes every thirty to forty seconds - still a vast improvement and less paranoia-inducing than hitting D-scan every ten seconds - with better situational awareness, to boot.

I think that could work. Any kind of radar would work actually.

In keeping with "consequences", I would be happy to sacrifice a high slot for that kind of sensor sweep. Maybe use that instead of a cloak.

A module-based approach would allow for skill sets directly related to the modules involved, along with auxiliary skills, to enhance the range of such a detection system. So perhaps for some people, they are ready to put in time and modules for extra protection, and those who, using the miner example, wishing to ISK-snatch and would in no way do anything not related to more yield, are more easily jumped.

It would also be good for those who might sacrifice DPS for such a module, having to rely on their skills even more to get better DPS out of the remaining hard points.

A module that can sensor sweep combined in use with the micro jump would be a good cat and mouse tool, whereby if we are in a situation where staying aligned is not practical or possible (or the cloaked scout sees you are not aligned and tells the tackler to warp in and make the move) a short jump 100KM from where the threat is warping into might buy a chance for survival.


Overall the whole D-Scan topic is one of those survival matters in this game whereby we have to deal with the "inevitability of being ganked" versus "the chance of being ganked". Prior to the current scan mechanics (old times) you only had to deal with getting caught at gates. The change in scan mechanics ended low-sec mission running because experienced players could get around those gate camps, but in the kill everything that moves genre of play style, lowsec became the parking lot of the shopping mall in "Dawn of the Dead" because just about anybody gets scanned down. The change in the scanning mechanics and no change in the mission profile saw to this end, while those who did the killing now complain about a lack of targets - hence you can make a video game with consequences, but you can't some players to realize that it even exists at all.


Most of the time any talk of automated D-Scan usually comes with the topic of removing local, whereby most people agree that the removal of local should require automated D-scan capabilities because the more hardcore of nullsec player will go mad mashing a button every couple of seconds (surprisingly there's a lack of the same complaint while being in a fleet simply hitting F1 on a monotonous succession of primaries but I digress).

It doesn't "require" any - you can mindlessly scan all sigs in any system, but it does respond to some thinking, interpretation of id plates, ignoring certain unknowns even when hunting for 3/10s on the same band, setting probes to particular initial distances, remembering where all the red dots were so you can wave a set of 2aus around and get 10 or so sigs done in a couple of mins etc.

Tthe highsec vision of it, where 95% of highsec systems have 1-3 sigs, is very different to the WH and highsec islands where there might be 10-30 sigs, and multiple valuable sigs.

The main thing that it lacks is environmental influences - ie the probes work exactly the same in every system, so there is no advantage to being a local, and there is no adjusting of method required other than triage on results.

He mentioned an industry re-balance for null.

Not reading 20 pages of thread to see if anyone said there was a picture of faction battlecruisers: Republic Fleet Hurricane, Federation Navy Brutix, Caldari Navy Drake, and Imperial Navy Harbinger.

Been playing with the Gnosis. Weird boat. I love the bonuses and have fit it with missiles, ACs and Blasters. All work to some degree. Tough to fit an Expanded Probe Launcher without help though. Should be interesting.

Take it to the RP forums RP'ers.

Oh sorry, i stepped in and bumped..

click the button, watch fancy but useless graphics, get result 10 seconds later?

Can't, my 5 years training plan isn't finished, yet.