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How is faction warfare fun??

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#21 - 2013-03-24 01:34:43 UTC
I don't do FW myself but I enjoy shooting people who do. There's a lot of fun in that.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-03-24 08:45:29 UTC
But then if you have to JOIN a specific alliance or corporation in order to enjoy FW , that kinda defeated the purpose of FW didn't it?
You are suppose to be fighting for the state , but a mercenary being contracted in for the money and fast 'hores .
Why don't just go to null sec and do your thing? why FW then?
FW is suppose to be a quick pick up and play feature like RvB .....
Don't even get me started on RvB ... the command there is even more messed up .

Who even is the SUPREME commander of the caldari FW???
Amarr?
Minmatar?
Gallante???

Who is the the EIEIO?

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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#23 - 2013-03-24 09:56:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Xelitras
Ivy Romanova wrote:
But then if you have to JOIN a specific alliance or corporation in order to enjoy FW , that kinda defeated the purpose of FW didn't it?
You are suppose to be fighting for the state , but a mercenary being contracted in for the money and fast 'hores .
Why don't just go to null sec and do your thing? why FW then?
FW is suppose to be a quick pick up and play feature like RvB .....
Don't even get me started on RvB ... the command there is even more messed up .

Who even is the SUPREME commander of the caldari FW???
Amarr?
Minmatar?
Gallante???

Who is the the EIEIO?



Hi,

you don't join a corp or alliance to enjoy FW. You join a corp after you have flown with them a couple of times and you have decided that you want to put an end to the disconnect that you felt, because you were not part of their group.

A fleet is not formed to connect the people in FW on a social level. A fleet is formed to channel intel and firepower, benefiting each fleet member.

If you want the fights to matter, make friends, join the player created chatrooms and maybe join a corp at the end of this process.

Jill.

edit:

To your other questions:
Q: Why not null-sec instead ?
A: You'd have to live in 0.0. With FW, you have the choice between low-sec and high-sec.

Q: FW is supposed to be a quick pick-up feature like RvB (not sure what the question part was, Jill)
A: Let's not forget RvB is 100% player created awesomness. FW is CCP setting the rules, players filling the voids. FW is still quick pick-up. You join the militia as individual or as a corp, or you join an existing corp alliance ... and bam, you're in. You see on the overview who your targets are and who is in your militia. You can shoot and get shot. And, unlike high-sec wars, it's a very consensual choice.

Q: Who is Supreme Commander in the militias ?
A: Depending on time-zone and activity level, an alliance (or before alliances were allowed into FW, it was corporations) will take some leadership. They will never control 100% of their militia, but they will definately have a word to say when in comes to defending system A rather then system B.

Why does it work like that ? Fights that involve more then 2-6 ships benefit from having a fleet with an FC (fleet commander). Fleet commanders want people willing to learn out of mistakes and hey, why not experienced fighters. Pilots on the other hand hate losing ships to bad FCing. So they tend to join fleets with better FCs if there is a choice to do so.

So, good FCs attract good pilots and good pilots attract good FCs. And there you have a beginning of supreme command, because at some point the FCs will talk to other FCs about strategical decisions rather then the everyday tactical ones. They may decide to have a common intel channel or even form an alliance ...

Jill.

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Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-03-24 09:57:47 UTC
How is Eve fun? How is blowing bubbles fun? How is anything fun?

Maybe it's not for you, maybe you didn't find a good fit group to fly with?

From what I've seen FW is the best thing to happen to eve small combat since ever. The only other low-entry, consistently day in and day out pew-pewing scene out there that I've seen is RvB.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#25 - 2013-03-24 17:12:11 UTC
Fw is fighting for the faction doen't mean you have to be in the NPC millitia corp, like in real life there are more than One Unit in a army corp.

FW is suppose to be a quick pick up and play feature like RvB this is where YOU get it Totally WRONG.

FW is about War , not only pew pew... war is not only about shooting at others , it's about politics, intel, embargo, sabotage, Traps etc etc.

When you'll understand that , FW will be very fun for you.

You need a good corp for that too

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#26 - 2013-03-24 17:18:18 UTC
OP, you're looking at it all the wrong way. Plexes are LP farms and FW is an ISK faucet and this is EvE; If you told people that they could make 100,000,000ISK an hour watching paint dry then watching paint dry will soon become everybody's favorite part of the game.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Namdor
#27 - 2013-03-24 17:32:48 UTC
I don't like something, therefor it is bad (because I'm a self-absorbed numpty).
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-03-24 21:48:43 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
FW is an ISK faucet


I think its time to stop posting.
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#29 - 2013-03-24 21:49:02 UTC
Namdor wrote:
I don't like something, therefor it is bad (because I'm a self-absorbed numpty).


How does that answer the question "How is faction warfare fun??"

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.

Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-03-24 21:54:48 UTC
Meh the pvp in FW is ok and reasonably fun, most annoying is the switching farmers
GreenSeed
#31 - 2013-03-24 23:30:13 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Fun PVP where corporations and alliance can learn to PVP and grow without needing a huge capital fleet or the PITA that is Sov.
There are plenty of players in FW getting small gang fights and solo PVP because they go out and look for it.

If you joined the militia NPC corp and put and x in the Militia channel for fleet then all you're going to get for PVP is blobtastic kitchen sink fleets.
Join a Player FW PVP corp that focuses on small gang and skirmish PVP and go kill people while making stacks of ISK.

this, fw chat fleets are fun if you are completely alone and are a complete newb into fw. and the whole spy thing is bs, unless you are trying to join a large fw alliance, of which there aren't many, no one will care about your background. mainly because there aren't any assets to lose. stations cant be lost, fleets can be awoxed but its rare to see anything bigger than cruisers. (on fleet) and most POSes are small, to be used only as safes, and they are up a weekend at most. if the pass goes public hardly anyone will care.

anyway your problem is doing FW alone is doing FW wrong, don't think that by clicking the "enlist me" button you joined the militia.


and about the LP farmers.... there's a reason why the militia window is under the business tab. because its supposed to be used to make money, while having some danger. and warzone control is an objective because it increases the isk making capabilities of, guess what, lp farming.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-03-24 23:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
GreenSeed wrote:
. and the whole spy thing is bs, unless you are trying to join a large fw alliance, of which there aren't many, no one will care about your background.


The whole spy thing is hardly BS. . . I know many people that have alts in both militias joining opposing fleets to get intel on it.

And also I have had spy tactics used on me. A spy would farm a plex, when the Plex is about to be captured they warp in their opposing militia alt and either kill you with both their two characters, or they chase you off the PLEX and capture all the LP themselves. You can't shoot back as you will take a standing hit as their in your militia.

There is a reason why possibly the most used response in militia chat is "SPAI" :)
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-25 01:35:28 UTC
so basically what you are saying is ...
if you click the enlist me option in the FW tab , you are basically joining a band of unorganized farmers and AWOXERS who aren't there for the pvp fun , but are mostly there for the farming ...

FW is the introductory to null sec pvp and if you want to FW seriously , you should join an alliance specifically for that?

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-03-25 03:30:13 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
FW is an ISK faucet.

Roll

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-03-25 17:57:13 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
so basically what you are saying is ...
if you click the enlist me option in the FW tab , you are basically joining a band of unorganized farmers and AWOXERS who aren't there for the pvp fun , but are mostly there for the farming ...

FW is the introductory to null sec pvp and if you want to FW seriously , you should join an alliance specifically for that?


No.
Joining the FW militia corp is a useful first step. But from there you will need to do some work to prove yourself different from the farmers and awoxers. From there you can either formally join a FW corp, or simply rely on contacts you've built up to get yourself into fleets on an ad hoc basis.

I personally don't subscribe to idea of FW being an introduction to nullsec pvp, anymore than drinking beer is an introduction to drinking toilet bleach. To each their own.
Namdor
#36 - 2013-03-25 22:43:11 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
Namdor wrote:
I don't like something, therefor it is bad (because I'm a self-absorbed numpty).


How does that answer the question "How is faction warfare fun??"


Instead of directly answering the question, I opted to instead illustrate that you are an idiot for asking that something inherently subjective (fun) be qualified in an objective manner.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-25 22:58:27 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Who is the the EIEIO?


Old Mac Donald.
Don't you even books?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-03-25 23:14:29 UTC
Think Playstation and blow **** up ?

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

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