EVE General Discussion

Nope, the issue is that NEXON will become the ONLY method through which players in Japan will be able to access EVE. It was even said that if a player was discovered playing from Japan without going through NEXON, they'll be made to go through NEXON by some means. That is apparently a "fair enough" deal from CCP's perspective-- and a huge concern for Japan-based players as NEXON is well known for being sub-standard.

This is horrible ... to say the least lol.


Thank you for your concern Tanya.

While there are still matters like "Why do we have to perform this GTC work around in the first place ? We were perfectly happy with the normal direct subscription to CCP using our credit cards. It's much simpler and of course long term subscriptions are cheaper than GTCs. Just let us subscribe directly to CCP and leave Nexon billing as an option for new coming Japan-based players", as you have pointed out, it seems we do have a choice. At least, a considerable number of people have pointed out the GTC work around so far. Assuming they all read the Email from CCP I referred to in OP, apparently CCP has not yet stated clearly enough whether we do have a choice or not.

So as I have mentioned in one of the previous posts, one thing I would like CCP to clarify is whether we are able to buy GTCs or not after the launch of Nexon billing. Nothing has been announced about any future regional restrictions on the buying of GTCs but we have learned that that doesn't mean they are not ready to do it. Also whether there will be any "additional steps" involving Nexon when we activate our codes.

I would also like to hear CCP's perspective on the influence of NEXON POINTS on EVE's PLEX-based economy. Nexon points can be used for in-game item trade in their other MMORPG, Maple Story, which means economic activity outside EVE's universe may end up affecting EVE's economy. That should be a concern for all EVE players-- not Just players in Japan.

Let it also be pointed out NEXON allows other advertisers to use nexon points as a lure, such as the common "sign up now and get 300 nexon points!" type-promotion.

Is CCP sure they have hadged against the risk introduced by a potential increase in the money supply? especially with virtual currency that is shared with other games? A person who has a lot of time on their hand (such as making lots of money in Maple Story, or people who sign up for multitudes of nexon points promotions) can basically play EVE for free and interact with the economy. In an extreme case, such a person can run multiple accounts and generate tremendous amount of wealth with zero overhead (in terms of real-world currency). I'd find that troubling.

If it goes through a P2W company you can bet there will be a surcharge involved which means higher prices "just because".

From what I can gather, the only way they will have to avoid having to deal with Nexon (other than getting an account) is to buy plex for ISK in-game or if a person is lucky enough to speak English he can buy GTC's from one of the vendors.

It is just plain wrong to force people to do business with a company that is not only distrusted but disliked when it is not needed .. CCP probably got suckered into some stupid exclusivity deal (it WAS done during their lame-brain phase, aka. BARBIES > All)

Yeah, I had that thought as well but read the announcements again .. Nexon wil handle billing and distribution nothing else (may also help with localization .. unsure of that). The game support (ie. GMs) will be "regular" CCP staff from what I can tell, given that then that line of thinking/reasoning falls flat rather quickly.

Every instance of GTC and whatever else I've seen on third party sites amount to 35 american dollars for 60 days gametime.
the same as the two plex you can direct buy from CCP, which can also make 60 days.

However, is MORE than you pay when you use direct payments to ccp, where 30 days is 15 dollars, and ineed 90 days is 39.

So being prevented from using direct payments to CCP forces us to pay more than others.

I took a look at Nexons site. They did have a phone number but it says the "phone supports" are limited to issues on Nexon ID registration, point charging, via mail notifying service and one time password configuration. Interactions between Nexon and their customers regarding anything else than those must be done through their web support format.

CCP is ready to provide in-game support in Japanese for Japanese speaking customers, so why not just do the billing stuff as well ? I had this impression too so I think I understand what Hirana is saying.

And if for some reason it is really necessary that the billing stuff must be done by a third party organization, as Ranka said, it seems it shouldn't have been by Nexon. You don't call it a "support" when it takes half a year to respond to a single support ticket (assuming Mr Epeen didn't make that quote up :p ).

When the first news about CCPs plan of teaming up with a "successful company" reached the Japanese community, among the many guesses people made about which company it will be, Nexon was one of the least desired. Well, to be honest, no one could point out any desirable company at all (many of us consider CCPs support to be one of the best in the industry) but Nexon was just a bad joke. I remember just mentioning their name was even considered something funny. And then it turned out to be them. Many Japanese hoped that this Nexon feature will be just something optional for new people but again it turned out to be not. For the existing Japan-based players, CCP has been successful in making the worst choices so far.

And one more thing. CCP, observing the message boards where some Japanese EVE players tend to dwell, it seems that many players haven't received this notification mail yet. Some of them are wondering if this means they don't have to do this Nexon stuff, like CCP doesn't recognize them as a Japan-based player. They seem to have not missed your Power of 2 mail (and I must say you timed it pretty bad) so I guess it is not that you have their mail addresses wrong. So far this coming Nexon billing notification has been done only by Email. There are some interviews on the web about it but still no official announcements. This means there are still a good number of people that are completely unaware of this matter. Please look into it.

Bump, in japan now on holidays, spoke to a few mates here their a little concerned to say the least. (including with the maple-story bot thing and buying eve-accounts with nexon gold... which can be botted from maple-story...)

Glad ill be back in aus in a week or so, i dont have to worry about it, for now, but if we move here permanetly :S might have to use a vpn.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35381&find=unread

post there, or in mittani's thread. get their attention for the summit in december.

i made a post on yalls behalf in this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=406327#post406327

hopefully the CSM gets the message to CCP and CCP does something to make it slightly less terrible for yall. wouldnt hurt if yall kept pestering the csm, as well.