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C5 Escalations with Dreads
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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-08 06:00:41 UTC
Okay,

I know you C5 guys have been trying to get it through my skull how awesome C5 escalations are with dreads, but I didn't understand. I just couldn't until we did it.

We did C5 sites; no escalations. Great money for a C4 corp. Then we did Carrier + battleships, good money, comparable to before. Then we got a Moros in... I kid you not, like 5 volleys later, okay Tag 1 is down what's next?

... Uhh what? It was taking us like 2 minutes a ship before with Battleship DPS. Yeah well he's dead now so what do you want me to shoot? Let me find you a Tag 2...

This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back. It's glorious. Probably avoid the Phoenix/Naglfar though... just saying.


Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Fatyn
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#2 - 2013-03-08 07:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Fatyn
Svodola Darkfury wrote:

This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back.


I would recommend 10 dreadnoughts Big smile
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-03-08 08:12:07 UTC
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Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-08 08:19:48 UTC
Sushi Nardieu wrote:
Link your home J-sig


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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-08 11:01:55 UTC
Sushi Nardieu wrote:
Link your home J-sig



Pass. Thanks :)

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Walextheone
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-08 11:13:39 UTC
Fatyn wrote:
Svodola Darkfury wrote:

This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back.


I would recommend 10 dreadnoughts Big smile


It gets a bit hilarious when you field 8-10. Even the webbers have a hard time locking stuff fast enough :-p
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-08 11:54:36 UTC
our problem is that everything dies before our target painters finish cycling
Deminision
Voidlords
#8 - 2013-03-08 11:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Deminision
Our problem is that siege cycles are too long... If they were 3 minutes long we would be happy farmers!

Glorious PvE
Bluelynx
Lead Farmers
#9 - 2013-03-08 13:00:09 UTC
WInter Borne wrote:
our problem is that everything dies before our target painters finish cycling


:C5 problems:
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#10 - 2013-03-08 13:13:10 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:


This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back. It's glorious. Probably avoid the Phoenix/Naglfar though... just saying.


Svo.


Rumours are Nag is getting a decentish buff soon, but I can't see the Phoenix being any good for shooting sleepers any time soon.
Doc Hollidai
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#11 - 2013-03-09 15:25:58 UTC
WInter Borne wrote:
our problem is that everything dies before our target painters finish cycling


Perhaps CCP should introduce a skill that reduces TP cycle time...
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-03-09 20:59:35 UTC
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Praxximus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-03-11 19:25:34 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Svodola Darkfury wrote:


This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back. It's glorious. Probably avoid the Phoenix/Naglfar though... just saying.


Svo.


Rumours are Nag is getting a decentish buff soon, but I can't see the Phoenix being any good for shooting sleepers any time soon.


I have also heard this. I believe right now its set to use 2 projectiles and 2 missiles. From what I've heard they're changing it to 3 projectiles so that its basically more in line with the Rev and Moros in terms of the setup which will now even further isolate the Phoenix as the bastard stepchild of the dreadnaughts.

A Phoenix is great for bashing a POS or a POCO, and they work just fine for rolling holes too, lol. Outside of that though, meh.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#14 - 2013-03-25 16:17:40 UTC
Praxximus wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Svodola Darkfury wrote:


This is not pandering for more capitals to shoot at; seriously, just get a freaking dreadnaught if you've been holding back. It's glorious. Probably avoid the Phoenix/Naglfar though... just saying.


Svo.


Rumours are Nag is getting a decentish buff soon, but I can't see the Phoenix being any good for shooting sleepers any time soon.


I have also heard this. I believe right now its set to use 2 projectiles and 2 missiles. From what I've heard they're changing it to 3 projectiles so that its basically more in line with the Rev and Moros in terms of the setup which will now even further isolate the Phoenix as the bastard stepchild of the dreadnaughts.

A Phoenix is great for bashing a POS or a POCO, and they work just fine for rolling holes too, lol. Outside of that though, meh.


Full Naglfar changes are:
New Fixed Role Bonus: +50% Capital Projectile Weapon Damage
-2 High Slots
-2 Launcher Slots
-144000 Powergrid
-180 CPU

So.. Less Ammo use for same DPS as other 3 turret Dreads.. theoreticly..

Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=214280&find=unread
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2013-03-27 00:56:35 UTC
Nag should be fine after the patch. Tracking is nearly as good as the moros, and dps will be fine, so it should be better than the rev for PVE.
unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-03-27 08:41:14 UTC
Praxximus wrote:
[quote=Rroff][quote=Svodola Darkfury]
A Phoenix is great for bashing a POS or a POCO, and they work just fine for rolling holes too, lol. Outside of that though, meh.

You forgot that they are also great against other capitals... .

I just wonder how the possible big alpha of the nag will influance the dread blap issues... .

No local in null sec would fix everything!
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#17 - 2013-03-27 13:51:43 UTC
my eft warriors have done a lot of math and for blapping sub caps the new naglfar willt ake the crown in per volley damage. Naturalyl as artillery goes though if you miss its not very efficient. 2 naglfars will be able to alpha a bhaalgorn from 100% shields to dead.

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