EVE General Discussion

I would like to see further expansion of the WIS as well, corporate offices would be a nice place to start and IMO, other than working out how to have 2 or more avatars in a room together doesn't seem like a big jump over captains quarters at the moment.

Edit: Even holographic one to one communications with other eve players would be a great start.

But, I'm not a programming person, so have no real idea on the level of commitment that will require.

From what I have seen is that CCP is attemping to take on a much larger overall design as shown in some of the "behind the scenes" videos (I seem to remember seeing geometric shapes representing charecter avatars moving around as some sort of proof of concept)

While yeah its resource hungry, if WIS has a development cycle of 2/3 years most PC's will be able to handle it quite well I believe.

But I agree with the sentiments on the rest of the thread, CCP has commited itself to other areas, which is a bit of a shame really as with Dust I can very easily see orbital war rooms with Capsuleers and Bunnies meeting and organising together.

There is a lot of general support for WIS in the community, I hear it regularly, but share frustrations that in reality, after the vocal minority of Eve spoke out about it, its been kicked into the long grass never to be seen again.

Can people please stop giving companies money before they make the game.

You know they can take your $1,000,000 and release a pile a poop right? and you're not getting that money back!

Let's take this idea here. CCP say they want to raise money for WiS, they promise more content if they make $1mil
They get $1mil, then make a new solo player room. They have now made more WiS like they said and spent about $200k and used the rest to do what ever they want.

Kickstarter should not be used to make games, companies need to make quality or interesting games if they want to make money, not get paid to release what ever they eventually fail on making.

Kickstarter isn't the solution for everything. Take off those abominations of facial eyewear from '80s you're wearing, loosen your jeans, cut your hair, and ~capitalism~.

Respect.

Sometimes it feels like ground hog day around here.

At least CCP finally got the message from the vast majority of people that want the spaceship portion of a ships in space MMO to be worked on over the personal pipe dream of a powerful person(s) on the dev team.

I want WIS when they can actually technically handle that portion at least as good as a non jita system. Right now even with Time Dilation they can't even provide a non lagfest experience for the large fleet battles bragged about in most of the ads for this game.

Adding a buggy incomplete resource hog of a slapped on module did not make sense when they first tried it and praise be to whatever deity that they realized their error and stopped before going over the waterfall so to speak.

Focus is what CCP needs and WIS was doing nothing more than blurring their vision.

I think that this is a really good idea.

Clearly WiS is suffering from the haters that generate a S**tstorm every time someone mention WiS (see this thread).
However there are a significant number of players who want this in Eve; I personally would happily pay for expansion (in advance via kickstart).
If 50,000 are prepared to stump up 30 quid; then I'm pretty sure WiS would be a reality.

I guess it all depends on what your cite-able statistics are for: "a significant number" who just want WIS, vs. the number of players who will actually quit over not having WIS, vs. the number of subs CCP really did lose when they turned their resources away from what makes them money for too long, after that was punctuated by a miserable expansion marketed to players as an example of :excellence:.

A lot of the so-called "hate" you are perceiving is partly because threads like this do not belong in GD, and mostly because the "CCP, gimme WIS naow!!!!" bleating goes on and on, from the same handful of players who somehow have come to believe they represent the majority of subscribers.

It does not matter how much money you have now, or can generate quickly via fundraising to throw at a idea if the underlying tech is not capable of fulfilling the majority of your customers' expectations. It also helps a lot if there is meaningful game play & content that directly relates to and impacts EVE the PVP game. After more than half a decade of spitballing, CCP doesn't even have what players will actually do in WIS worked out, and that's hardly due to a lack of funds, which they once had plenty of when they were actively working on it.

I wouldn't worry about they haters. They are only a small bunch of people anyway.

If CCP were to do a kickstarter, I think at the very least they woudl need to show that the incarna engine is capable of displaying multiple avatars at the same time first, to build credibility.

Apparently the incarna engine can already display multiple avatars, it's more a problem with the processor power require to do so.

Greetings


As I do not think this should be in Features and Ideas as it is an idea about an alternate method to improve the game, out side actual game content. However I do ask that we do not get into what truly is the death of positive discourse and that is pyramid posting and off topic responses. Press on.

On On

Lava lamps, red velvet smoking jacket, polar bear rug.... martini glasses... mirrors on the ceiling... really... how hard can it be ?

There's more awe in this single SC concept art:

Moscow 30th century concept art

Than in the whole Incarna in its good times before release.

Of course, concept art is concept art. But we moved from promenades and walking to ships (Ambulation teaser video 2006) to establishments and Captain quarters (Incarna fanfest video 2010) to a prison cell (actual Incarna) and abandonment (the next 2 years at least, which in terms of EVE longevity may be"forever").