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Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-24 14:58:21 UTC
If I wanted to make a ship fit that never had to dock up, what would you recommend? I basically just want to spend some time "seeing the galaxy" so survivability and utility take precedence over combat prowess, but it would be nice to not have to run from rookie ships.

I *believe* this means a legion, with covert, emergent, and nullifier subsystems. Not sure where to go from there.
Cain Aloga
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#2 - 2013-03-24 15:03:00 UTC
I too would like know, for this is something that interested me very much, tho I would like to have a somewhat higher combat capability and stick to minmatar ships if at all possible.

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Seraph Castillon
In Control
Neon Nightmares
#3 - 2013-03-24 15:08:34 UTC
This question has never been asked before, the answers are not out there. You were correct when you decided starting a new thread about this was a good idea.
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-24 15:31:52 UTC
I like the idea of doing something like this. I'd personally go with a pilgrim.

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Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-24 15:32:06 UTC
Seraph Castillon wrote:
This question has never been asked before, the answers are not out there. You were correct when you decided starting a new thread about this was a good idea.


This comment has never been made before.
Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-24 15:34:52 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
I like the idea of doing something like this. I'd personally go with a pilgrim.


Bubbles tend to be the bane of my life. I run solo (the real kind with no alts) so every jump is always blind. If I wasn't trying to find a working fit with a nullifier I think would go with the pilgrim as well.
Orlacc
#7 - 2013-03-24 17:02:51 UTC
Cheetah

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#8 - 2013-03-24 17:23:20 UTC
I'd personally pick either a Legion, as you said, or a drone boat, most likely a Pilgrim. Neither require ammo, and have ample slots to do whatever with you wish.

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Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-24 17:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Din Tempre
This seems like a bad fit, but I'm lost for ideas. Might drop some of the exploration tools so it's less crippled.

[Legion, Lost in Space]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Codebreaker II
Analyzer II
Warp Disruptor II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
Salvager II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M

Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I

Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-24 19:06:09 UTC
Ishtar
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#11 - 2013-03-24 20:08:51 UTC
I would use a tengu personally. It is faster and more agile than a legion will ever be, which is handy for getting off gates, or holes, or wherever. Damage is just about as terrible as the legions but it can project farther and swap damage types at will since its offensive sub does not give specific damage bonus's.

Its slot layout even in the nullified configuration is still good, and its fitting specs are good. Unlike the legion, who's cloak/scan/null slot and fitting configs are beyond TERRIBLE for the cost and risk.

Most importantly, for me at least, its tank will regenerate passively so you do not have to worry about eating boosters or carrying them with you everywhere just to run a tank.

Yes you use missiles but they are both easy to get and small enough so that you can carry a ton of them.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2013-03-24 22:53:50 UTC
Din Tempre wrote:
If I wanted to make a ship fit that never had to dock up, what would you recommend? I basically just want to spend some time "seeing the galaxy" so survivability and utility take precedence over combat prowess, but it would be nice to not have to run from rookie ships.

I *believe* this means a legion, with covert, emergent, and nullifier subsystems. Not sure where to go from there.


What do you want to do while you are "seeing the galaxy"? Do you want to PvP? Or PvE? Are you planning to visit one area of space at a time? Or do you truly plan to avoid docking up until you die?

Answer those questions and we will have a better idea what kind of ship and fit to recommend.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-03-24 23:11:04 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
I would use a tengu personally. It is faster and more agile than a legion will ever be, which is handy for getting off gates, or holes, or wherever. Damage is just about as terrible as the legions but it can project farther and swap damage types at will since its offensive sub does not give specific damage bonus's.

Its slot layout even in the nullified configuration is still good, and its fitting specs are good. Unlike the legion, who's cloak/scan/null slot and fitting configs are beyond TERRIBLE for the cost and risk.

Most importantly, for me at least, its tank will regenerate passively so you do not have to worry about eating boosters or carrying them with you everywhere just to run a tank.

Yes you use missiles but they are both easy to get and small enough so that you can carry a ton of them.


Quote:
If I wanted to make a ship fit that never had to dock up, what would you recommend?


Given the way a tengu goes through missiles, it pretty much breaks the OP's first request.
Wash Hemah
Walden 2.0
#14 - 2013-03-25 04:19:46 UTC
The whole "never wanna dock up" thing just seems stupid to me.. I mean, the whole thing where people want to mimic things like Firefly and Clear Skies (lol see my char name) seems awesome, but they land and dock etc., so no reason why these people can't. :)
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-03-25 04:22:34 UTC
Wash Hemah wrote:
The whole "never wanna dock up" thing just seems stupid to me.. I mean, the whole thing where people want to mimic things like Firefly and Clear Skies (lol see my char name) seems awesome, but they land and dock etc., so no reason why these people can't. :)


Go fly around the great wildlands awhile. Or ninja in SOV nullsec and see how many places you can dock up.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-03-25 04:24:22 UTC
use a hulk, i hear theyre awesome.

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Bigg Gun
T.I.E. Inc.
#17 - 2013-03-25 12:17:15 UTC
super caps - they can never dock , even though they may wanna :) mwahahaha
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#18 - 2013-03-25 17:47:43 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
I would use a tengu personally. It is faster and more agile than a legion will ever be, which is handy for getting off gates, or holes, or wherever. Damage is just about as terrible as the legions but it can project farther and swap damage types at will since its offensive sub does not give specific damage bonus's.

Its slot layout even in the nullified configuration is still good, and its fitting specs are good. Unlike the legion, who's cloak/scan/null slot and fitting configs are beyond TERRIBLE for the cost and risk.

Most importantly, for me at least, its tank will regenerate passively so you do not have to worry about eating boosters or carrying them with you everywhere just to run a tank.

Yes you use missiles but they are both easy to get and small enough so that you can carry a ton of them.


I was thinking something very similar. The ideal ship would be a covert interdiction nullified shield tanked T3 with lasers. If you can do that with a Legion, do it - but my suggestion was going to be an arty Loki.

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Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-03-25 19:19:02 UTC
Jump freighter :P
Din Tempre
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-03-25 20:49:03 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Din Tempre wrote:
If I wanted to make a ship fit that never had to dock up, what would you recommend? I basically just want to spend some time "seeing the galaxy" so survivability and utility take precedence over combat prowess, but it would be nice to not have to run from rookie ships.

I *believe* this means a legion, with covert, emergent, and nullifier subsystems. Not sure where to go from there.


What do you want to do while you are "seeing the galaxy"? Do you want to PvP? Or PvE? Are you planning to visit one area of space at a time? Or do you truly plan to avoid docking up until you die?

Answer those questions and we will have a better idea what kind of ship and fit to recommend.


I would want to mainly try and seek out treasure, so scan out some sites and see what I find. Hopefully the ability to do combat with low sec and c1-2 rats and I wouldn't say no to targets of opportunity, especially if they are distracted by other parties.

I would plan to stay in space for at least a month without docking if I survive that long. Diving in wormholes, jumping to the edge of the galaxy, and anywhere in-between a whim takes me.
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