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Call to nations to unite against Federation villany

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BloodBird
The Crucible.
#41 - 2013-03-24 07:10:01 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

In fact, I am thinking about final solution that will break this cycle. And I hope peoples in our HQ are doing the same.
So, the daring idea and excessive force is what we really need.


Final solution? I love that kind of talk!


You should marry her. You would make the cutest most interesting entertaining couple ever.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-03-24 11:40:09 UTC
Diana, I think some small part of you knows just how ridiculous the things you say are. I think some part of you knows that the State cannot ever realistically hope to "bring down" the Federation or "eradicate" all Gallente, just like I think some part of you knew that once the Caldari Navy came to blows with the Federation Navy in Luminaire it had no realistic chance of winning. I think some part of you knows that most of the things you dream about - Gallentean genocide, destruction of the Federation, massive, full-scale military invasions of vast swathes of its space - are not either feasible or even really desirable. And I think that small part of you is why you're so angry.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#43 - 2013-03-24 13:16:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Oh, so trolling then. Too bad, I just lost real opponent.


Because everything you've ever said is truly serious and not intended to provoke? Come off it Kim, not even Heth is this much of a deranged patriot to his own cause.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-03-24 22:18:06 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Im working on breaking this cycle by applying lethal force.

Yes, because that has worked soooo well thus far.

It worked until those abominations from Gallente Prime backstabbed us in the moment we were the most vulnerable, disregarding any value to human life.
But don't worry, while there are able man and woman who can stand tall against gallentean monstrosity and their rotten ideals, they can't win. Many of us are ready to gladly give our lives for the State and Heth and to retaliate gallente scum, making them pay for what they did with their own blood. Maybe when their blood will flow rivers and oceans on Gallente Prime will become red, they will understand how wrong they are and finally repent.
If they wont, well... there are still many other planets swarming with these abominations.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-03-24 22:19:59 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana, I think some small part of you knows just how ridiculous the things you say are. I think some part of you knows that the State cannot ever realistically hope to "bring down" the Federation or "eradicate" all Gallente, just like I think some part of you knew that once the Caldari Navy came to blows with the Federation Navy in Luminaire it had no realistic chance of winning. I think some part of you knows that most of the things you dream about - Gallentean genocide, destruction of the Federation, massive, full-scale military invasions of vast swathes of its space - are not either feasible or even really desirable. And I think that small part of you is why you're so angry.

I knew many of gallentean kids are high on drugs, but couldn't imagine that on such extent.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-03-24 22:32:00 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Oh, so trolling then. Too bad, I just lost real opponent.


Because everything you've ever said is truly serious and not intended to provoke? Come off it Kim, not even Heth is this much of a deranged patriot to his own cause.

Serious? Don't you understand the gravity of the situation. While frogs are allowed to fly in our cluster there simple can't be real peace and no human will be safe.
And of course I am trying to provoke peoples. I am trying to awake them from slumber, from ignoring all atrocities and attempts to subjugate everybody in the cluster under gallentean rule.
During these trying times all we should stand together to repulse federal scum.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#47 - 2013-03-24 22:44:04 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Many of us are ready to gladly give our lives for the State and Heth


To be ready to sacrifice your life for the State is something that every State citizen must come to terms with. It is expected and desirable when the alternative is dishonor and destruction. To give your life for a single man however is not. The State is greater than any single person, no matter who they are.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-03-24 22:50:14 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Many of us are ready to gladly give our lives for the State and Heth


To be ready to sacrifice your life for the State is something that every State citizen must come to terms with. It is expected and desirable when the alternative is dishonor and destruction. To give your life for a single man however is not. The State is greater than any single person, no matter who they are.

The State is indeed greater than any single person. But if you take one person against another, his life has greater value than anyone else's life in this whole cluster, including my.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-03-24 23:43:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
I knew many of gallentean kids are high on drugs, but couldn't imagine that on such extent.

Given that you haven't actually refuted any of the things I've said, one presumes you've acknowledged them as true. The State does not have the military capacity to launch a full-scale invasion of the Federation, nor would it meet with success even if it tried. The "eradication" of the Gallente race is not a reasonable suggestion nor is it practically feasible. The other nations are not going to respond to your call to "unite" against the Federation. You know all of this is true.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-03-25 00:52:52 UTC
Acknowledging what? Your drivels? Well, im not so high on mushrooms to take your words seriously and accept your drugged world view.
And refuting every of your lies or sick imaginations is such a chore. Besides, everyone who has some brains in the head and not sawdust will understand it.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Sanadras Riahn
Turbo Nuclear Pirate Punch
#51 - 2013-03-25 03:16:48 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

And of course I am trying to provoke peoples. I am trying to awake them from slumber, from ignoring all atrocities and attempts to subjugate everybody in the cluster under gallentean rule.


If I remember correctly, it was the Caldari Navy, nay the Shiigeru herself, that fired upon and destroyed a CONCORD representative and his Battleship, who was there to ensure the laws and regulations that were agreed to were not broken. And yet, here you are barking about atrocities committed by the Gallente.

I think the Amarr need to take heed; I wouldn't be surprised if the Caldari turned and bit at their allies, as well.

Tradition defines and shapes a person, but should be evaluated frequently; far too often does Tradition no longer help, but hobble a person and stunt their growth. Especially a Capsuleer.

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#52 - 2013-03-25 03:25:41 UTC
Sanadras Riahn wrote:

If I remember correctly, it was the Caldari Navy, nay the Shiigeru herself, that fired upon and destroyed a CONCORD representative and his Battleship, who was there to ensure the laws and regulations that were agreed to were not broken. And yet, here you are barking about atrocities committed by the Gallente.

I think the Amarr need to take heed; I wouldn't be surprised if the Caldari turned and bit at their allies, as well.


To clarify:

The CONCORD ship demanded the Admiral to broadcast sensitive information regarding the state of her vessel, violated Caldari air space and repeatably refused warning to vacate said space and even threatened her himself. The DED agent over stepped his boundaries and payed the price for it.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-03-25 03:25:57 UTC
Sanadras Riahn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

And of course I am trying to provoke peoples. I am trying to awake them from slumber, from ignoring all atrocities and attempts to subjugate everybody in the cluster under gallentean rule.


If I remember correctly, it was the Caldari Navy, nay the Shiigeru herself, that fired upon and destroyed a CONCORD representative and his Battleship, who was there to ensure the laws and regulations that were agreed to were not broken. And yet, here you are barking about atrocities committed by the Gallente.

I think the Amarr need to take heed; I wouldn't be surprised if the Caldari turned and bit at their allies, as well.

CONCORD representative violated no-fly zone and refused to leave designated area.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-03-25 07:51:51 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Acknowledging what? Your drivels? Well, im not so high on mushrooms to take your words seriously and accept your drugged world view.

Accusing your opponent of being on drugs is the last resort of a demagouge without any other material to back up their points.

Diana Kim wrote:
And refuting every of your lies or sick imaginations is such a chore. Besides, everyone who has some brains in the head and not sawdust will understand it.

And yet notice how no-one other than yourself is taking your side in this argument.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-03-25 08:56:45 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Acknowledging what? Your drivels? Well, im not so high on mushrooms to take your words seriously and accept your drugged world view.

Accusing your opponent of being on drugs is the last resort of a demagouge without any other material to back up their points.

Oh, if you really believe in what you are saying, then you are indeed on drugs. Your 'material' is simple trolling and drivel, there's nothing to discuss really. Have you made at least one sensible idea, eh? Maybe I didn't notice in all this flood of sick drivels. So, if you really had such ideas, then try to separate them from your trolling and state them as it should be. Otherwise there's indeed nothing to talk about.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
And refuting every of your lies or sick imaginations is such a chore. Besides, everyone who has some brains in the head and not sawdust will understand it.

And yet notice how no-one other than yourself is taking your side in this argument.

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I would be verrry surprised if someone had same hallucinations as you. Luckily, I have never met another buffoon who would claim that i 'run' from battle of Caldari prime or only sit on station, shooting industrial-frigs from battleship, and many other of your sick imaginations.
And this 'argument' is about you coming to me with your delusions asking me to refute them.
Really, man, get a life.
Or at least dare come to me in person, I will gladly put an end to this... akhem.... 'argument'.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-03-25 09:30:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Oh, if you really believe in what you are saying, then you are indeed on drugs. Your 'material' is simple trolling and drivel, there's nothing to discuss really. Have you made at least one sensible idea, eh? Maybe I didn't notice in all this flood of sick drivels. So, if you really had such ideas, then try to separate them from your trolling and state them as it should be. Otherwise there's indeed nothing to talk about.

The fact is, I've seperated the ideas and stated them quite plainly on several occasions. The fact that you dismiss them as "drivel" simply shows either that you're intentionally ignoring them because you're incapable of refuting them (which is likely due to the fact that you show a chronic lack of understanding of various political and military facts) or that your perspective is significantly divorced from reality (which is also likely due to the fact that you regularly accuse the Gallente Federation of ethnic cleansing while in the same breath barefacedly advocating for ethnic cleansing of the Gallente race).

Diana Kim wrote:
Luckily, I have never met another buffoon who would claim that i 'run' from battle of Caldari prime or only sit on station, shooting industrial-frigs from battleship, and many other of your sick imaginations.

You don't need to meet someone. You just need to look at your public kill record.

Diana Kim wrote:
Or at least dare come to me in person, I will gladly put an end to this... akhem.... 'argument'.

Why should I waste my time with you? You dock up at the first sign of a real fight - members of Pyre Falcon, Ev0ke and Bloody Ronin have all spoken to this effect. Even Damar Rocarion thinks you're a tool.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-03-25 13:41:30 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Oh, if you really believe in what you are saying, then you are indeed on drugs. Your 'material' is simple trolling and drivel, there's nothing to discuss really. Have you made at least one sensible idea, eh? Maybe I didn't notice in all this flood of sick drivels. So, if you really had such ideas, then try to separate them from your trolling and state them as it should be. Otherwise there's indeed nothing to talk about.

The fact is, I've seperated the ideas and stated them quite plainly on several occasions. The fact that you dismiss them as "drivel" simply shows either that you're intentionally ignoring them because you're incapable of refuting them (which is likely due to the fact that you show a chronic lack of understanding of various political and military facts) or that your perspective is significantly divorced from reality (which is also likely due to the fact that you regularly accuse the Gallente Federation of ethnic cleansing while in the same breath barefacedly advocating for ethnic cleansing of the Gallente race).

So far all your words I have heard are useless rants and junk. If you have real sensible idea or a question, than try to state it clean and clear. Somehow, I really doubt you could do it...

Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Luckily, I have never met another buffoon who would claim that i 'run' from battle of Caldari prime or only sit on station, shooting industrial-frigs from battleship, and many other of your sick imaginations.

You don't need to meet someone. You just need to look at your public kill record.

I don't need to look at my combat record, since I perfectly know what I did and how. Obviously, hugest chunk of available even to public information have eluded your drugged glance.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:

Why should I waste my time with you? You dock up at the first sign of a real fight - members of Pyre Falcon, Ev0ke and Bloody Ronin have all spoken to this effect. Even Damar Rocarion thinks you're a tool.

Indeed, the only good of your word, why should you waste your time with me? So shut up and get out. Your delirious lies are both annoying and ridiculous.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Toluijin Chagangan
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-03-25 13:55:42 UTC
Dear spirits....

Kim. you know... with the dying and the in a hole, and the out of your pod.
Please get on with it already.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-03-25 14:37:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
So far all your words I have heard are useless rants and junk. If you have real sensible idea or a question, than try to state it clean and clear. Somehow, I really doubt you could do it...

Tell me then.

If the Caldari State truly has the military power to launch a successful full-scale invasion of the Federation despite CONCORD interference, why has it not done so?
If the Caldari State truly has the military power to launch a successful full-scale invasion of the Federation despite CONCORD interference, why are you calling on other nations for assistance?
If the Caldari State truly has the desire to launch a successful full-scale invasion of the Federation but not the military power to do so, why does it continue to devote resources and manpower to two wasteful and unproductive undertakings (the occupation of Caldari Prime, which Mens Reppola is on record as saying is wasteful to an extent that it is weakening the economic and military infrastructure of the entire State) instead of seeking peacetime for a period of respite in which to establish a military force capable of achieving its goals?
If the Caldari State has the military power ot launch a successful full-scale invasion of the Federation despite CONCORD interference but not the desire to do so, why do you persist in attempting to change that?
If the reason for the Caldari State attempting a full-scale invasion of the Federation is to "prevent ethnic cleansing," why is it acceptable for the Caldari State to ethnically cleanse member races of the Federation?
If the reason for the Caldari State attempting a full-scale invasion of the Federation is ethnic cleansing of Federation member races, why is the Federation's alleged ethnic cleansing somehow less morally justifiable than the State's?
Why should the State, as a full signatory member of CONCORD, be exempt from the terms of CONCORD treaties while you invoke the same treaties against the Federation despite the fact that it has not violated them, whereas the State under Heth's rule, but notably not previously, under the CEP's guidance, has violated them several times?
Why are you such a hypocrite and a loudmouth?

Diana Kim wrote:
I don't need to look at my combat record, since I perfectly know what I did and how.

But everyone on the IGS knows that you're a compulsive liar who has repeatedly and with both regularity and frequency made statements that are demonstrably untrue, and when confronted on the lack of truth in said statements you have told further falsehoods to justify this.

Diana Kim wrote:
Indeed, the only good of your word, why should you waste your time with me? So sh}ut up and get out. Your delirious lies are both annoying and ridiculous.

No. The fact is, there's literally no-one on the IGS who agrees with your lunacy - and it is lunacy. You crow about ethnic cleansing and dehumanisation but you pretend that Gallente aren't human and that it's somehow justified when you do it. You are a lunatic, a fraud, a pretender and the fact is you've built up such ill-will even with your own people, let alone members of other nations, that I could make up basically any accusation about you and the IGS would believe it simply because you're such a miserable shrew. Fortunately for me, I don't need to make up anything about you because the many, many insane things about you that are entirely true are also public knowledge, mostly because you make them so yourself. You can't even type your messages properly - it's like you've got a reading disorder.

Your call for "help" against the "villainous" Federation (which is laughable for a dozen reasons) will go completely ignored except as an item of mirth and derision, something to be laughed at but not taken with any degree of seriousness. Other Caldari look upon you with emotions varying from pity to embarassment, but none of them would consider you a valuable ally, and members of other nations (remember, the same ones your supposedly invincible nation suddenly needs help from against the EEEEEEEEEEEVIL Gallente?) look upon you as a dangerous lunatic - if they consider you worthy of any notice whatsoever.

Should you dislike the way I've put all these facts across, then you should take your own words into consideration and come and do something about it. But you probably won't find many friends to help you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-03-25 14:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

rants


Unfortunately, because of amount of insults, lies and bille you spit between real questions, that could be interesting to be discussed, I simply can not treat you seriously.

Try again. Try harder.

I recommend you to start with something like "Greetings, commander! Please excuse me and allow me to present you my humble question:"

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.