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[Guide] What wormhole you should live in
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Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-03-17 17:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxandrolone
Saveritas wrote:
If c4's suck, why am I making 200m / hour in them, solo?


It depends what you mean by 'solo' if you are using 1 account and nothing else at 200m an hour that is fairly good i guess.

If however you are multiboxing then you're not really solo

Jack Milton has done cap escalations 'solo' with lots of accounts and was probably making 2.1bil per hour others in my corp are capable of this but doing this would be incredibly risky outside of AU timezone and ofc PvE is so boring that i dont know if anyone could do it alone

If you are in your c4 in a capital ship which i think you are probably farming sleepers in a carrier then you would be making alot more if you had your carrier in a c5 and were cap escalating.

If for example you duel boxed carrier and something else and ran sites with 3 people you would be making 700m an hour making your 200m/hour rubbish income in comparison
UKBigWolf
#42 - 2013-03-19 17:27:10 UTC
Re: C1s
Other than the 'get used to wormholes with less hassle' business, I'd imagine they would be great for PI harvesting as well
Since all PI in WHs are of the highest value regardless of class if memory serves

But yea, other than that, can't really think of a thing
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-03-19 19:50:53 UTC
UKBigWolf wrote:
Re: C1s
Other than the 'get used to wormholes with less hassle' business, I'd imagine they would be great for PI harvesting as well
Since all PI in WHs are of the highest value regardless of class if memory serves

But yea, other than that, can't really think of a thing


Thanks Big wolf
Mattalious
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-03-20 01:51:13 UTC
Roime wrote:
Domoso wrote:

Fact is I've seen people work just as hard in other classes of w-space to find pew.


Sad truth is that most EVE players are farmers, bears or just way too small to leave the POS.



C4s are the haunt of small corps, with only the occasional one which seems to go into double figures. The truth is C4s are good for those who want to make more ISK than in K-space, without being under the yolk of the bigger alliances. It's a double edged blade - more freedom for the small corps and potentially more ganking opportunities for those looking to PvP, weighed up against the possibility of being wiped out of W-space if it goes spectacularly **** up. You face the possibility like that happening because people decide to be dicks and spring an Interdictor, A large C5 corp has the capital and the numbers that no one is going to sit in K-Space for long, waiting to get back in.
Bloody Wench
#45 - 2013-03-23 10:11:29 UTC
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C4’s
They suck all round. Only an idiot would live in a C4 heres why:


You're an idiot.

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unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-03-23 12:28:09 UTC
C4's are good to hide in.
No one scans them or looks in them or even want to... .

No local in null sec would fix everything!
Duramah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2013-03-23 13:46:01 UTC
Back in the day I used to live in a black hole c4 st c2. true story
Illipsys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-03-23 23:51:50 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:

We don't restrict our fights into WH's or k-space, we prefer w-space obviously but if the chain is quiet but useful otherwise and we have low's or null's to use and abuse, we do go out on roams. That said, http://stats.whkills.info/ is quite revealing with us as #1 in isk killed in w-space, with a number almost twice as big as the next two listed, Bite Me and Bitten... As those are essentially the same, we can look further and come up with the conclusion that we've killed more than the rest of top 5 combined in w-space. So uh about that...


the difference is we've lived in c5>c5 for quite some time, have experienced the nights of endless rolling with nothing to show for it, and while yes the same can be said for c6 statics - having experienced both, i can honestly say you 'find' more in c6 space but it isn't necessarily an opportunity for a fight due to previously mentioned reasons...people can't control their dreads Straight the likelyhood of rolling into an inhabited hole is just statistically more likely ( unless someone can prove me wrong here? )

p.s we killed more in w-space in jan/feb than ssc, you're good bro - oxy was just pointing out a difference in our play styles.
DrBmN
Lippstadt Creed
Solyaris Chtonium
#49 - 2013-03-24 00:19:03 UTC
Ethan Revenant wrote:
If you live in a C4, your isk comes from your static. You don't treat it like a C5 or C6.



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Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-03-24 11:26:19 UTC
Illipsys wrote:
the difference is we've lived in c5>c5 for quite some time, have experienced the nights of endless rolling with nothing to show for it, and while yes the same can be said for c6 statics - having experienced both, i can honestly say you 'find' more in c6 space but it isn't necessarily an opportunity for a fight due to previously mentioned reasons...people can't control their dreads Straight the likelyhood of rolling into an inhabited hole is just statistically more likely ( unless someone can prove me wrong here? )

p.s we killed more in w-space in jan/feb than ssc, you're good bro - oxy was just pointing out a difference in our play styles.


I guess the only real conclusion we can come up with is that it all boils down to your activity levels, be it in the C5 or C6. If you are actively looking to do stuff and kill stuff, then surprise surprise, you get to do and kill stuff. Due to the unpredictable nature of all w-space, you can't really get any more scientific than that :P
Nox Arnoux
Black Omega Security
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#51 - 2013-03-27 02:28:38 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:

C1’s
• I don’t know why anyone lives here; if people reply to the thread with reasonable suggestions I will update this section.


C1 with a static low makes great drug labs.
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-03-28 02:28:24 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:

C1’s
• I don’t know why anyone lives here; if people reply to the thread with reasonable suggestions I will update this section.
• The exit wormholes from here have 1 bil mass and the biggest mass they can take is 20m…. that’s 50 battlecruiser passes, ‘aint nobody got time for dat’. If I’m wrong (and I might be) some wormholes might have 500m mass, that’s still 25+ BC’s and almost nobody got time for dat.
• I guess c1’s are really hard to evict someone from since BC’s are the biggest ship that can be brought it, even with the new tier 3 BC’s it still takes a long time to bring down a POS (I used to be in Narwhals and we often bashed them with BC’s and logi) it’s not fun and almost never worth it, only mega butthurt people used to pay us to evict somewon from a C1.
• The sites can be run with a single drake (but so can c3’s and c3’s give more isk) basically c3’s give same isk for farming in the same ship and c2’s give 2 statics with a static wormhole to farm in, this is why I don’t know why people live and farm isk in a c1 solo, this is a multiplayer game afterall…

In my experience, it seems like most C1's are used primarily for industry, research, t3 production, and/or drug processing. The constant hi sec and limited max mass connections make it a pain to invade like you mentioned.

At the most extreme example, we found a couple guys who'd set up something like 12 large faction towers running alchemy reactions to produce tech. By our rough approximations they were making several billion a month in relatively passive income.

Just remember that if you make it a juicy enough target, people will find a way to destroy your sand castle.
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